Great post Huldah!:clap::clap::clap:

:goodpost2::bravo::goodpost2::bravo::goodpost2:
"Cursed be the man that trusteth in man." Jer 17:5.

Huldah, after authenticating the book and prophesying a future of destruction for failure to follow it, ends by reassuring King Josiah that because of his piety, God has heard his prayer and "thou shalt be gathered unto thy grave in peace, neither shall thy eyes see all the evil which I shall bring upon this place." (II Kings 22:20).

Huldah appears in the Hebrew Bible only in nine verses, II Kings 22:13-20, II Chronicles 34:22-28. This short narrative is sufficient to make clear that Huldah was regarded as a prophetess accustomed to speaking the word of God directly to high priests and royal officials, to whom high officials came in supplication, who told kings and nations of their fates, who had the authority to determine what was and was not the genuine Law, and who spoke in a manner of stern command when acting as a prophetess. Nonetheless the Bible does not offer the sort of background information it typically does with other pivotal prophets. Indeed, we are left knowing more about her husband's background than we know of hers, and the little information we know of her personally is largely in relation to her husband.

Now if anyone thinks a woman can not be a prophetess of God you might want to rethink it. When you hear a teacher, preacher/priest tell you females should not teach the Word and be seen and not heard ? Do not mess will Huldah or Debra !!


Deborah or Dvora (Hebrew: דְּבוֹרָה, Standard Dəvora Tiberian Dəḇôrāh ; "Bee") was a prophetess and the fourth Judge and only female Judge of pre-monarchic Israel in the Old Testament (Tanakh). Her story is told twice in chapters 4 and 5 of Judges. The first account is prose, relating the victory of Israelite forces led by General Barak, whom Deborah called forth but prophesied would not achieve the final victory over the Canaanite general Sisera himself. That honor went to Jael, the wife of Heber, a Kenite tentmaker. Jael killed Sisera by driving a tent peg through his head as he slept.
God Speed Huldah,Pokie, Vixweb and Tbelle !
Matty with all do respect please take this truth in consideration please Sir !
It is a matter of everyones eternal soul !! :pray::pray:

Mother Teresa was only human. Her private notes or thoughts should not be aired to the public ever.

Why is the Bible and Christianity such a lighting rod ? It is the cutting edge of truth and brings light which dispels darkness. Satan has his minions doing their work and they know the hour glass is just about empty. Traditions of man are a waste of precious time. If you want the real facts about Christianity and a better relationship with your Father read the Bible and pray for knowledge.

Great post Huldah. You absolutely summed up my thoughts on this very subject as well. I don't believe in telling anyone in how they should or should not believe or worship. We must each decide that for ourselves because just like you point out we shall all be held accountable individually.

My 12 y/o is already beginning to understand and study the Word of God for himself. I will not interpret it for him. I want him to do that himself and develop his own belief system. He already gets it on a deeper level than most pastors I have encountered.

That is great about your 12 year old! I wish I would've started at an early age taking the Bible more seriously and studying but I just wasn't ready yet.:cool:

Good point, only human...

I always assumed that every man ever born except one struggled with his or her faith at least once. Otherwise if a person never struggled with faith a single moment, wouldn't that make that person Jesus? (Mary too) Isn't that a pretty accurate definition for the savior? The only one who never strugged with faith or sinned, not once in the eyes of God?

Anime

I hate to say it, but I don't doubt the story of the nun smacking your friend with a Bible. Something to remember is that all humans sin, and a religion cannot be judged by the sins of a member.

Pocahontas

Thank you for your willingness to listen and not condemn.

This is the last I will post in this thread. There are those in this thread who simply mock, condemn, and attack. Then are those who are asking honest questions simply for the sake of knowledge, not necessarily for the sake of conversion.

The sad part is a few people attack me and my religion, and say they only follow what is written in the Bible. I gave biblical references and the Catholic interpretation, and my points are discounted with "waiving incense and holy water". There is no research, no willingness to learn, no willingness to take a deeper look. I am not trying to convert, I am trying to educate. I want people to know the how, what, and why of the Catholic Church.

Catholicism is the last socially acceptable prejudice in America. There are so many misconceptions, and many non-Catholics believe that if one Catholic scorns them, the whole Catholic Church must be bad. The fact is, people of every race, color, religion, ethnicity have the ability to scorn you.

If you want to truly learn more about Catholicism, St. John Berchmans Cathedral has several seminars, classes, etc. on Catholicism each year.

Matty,

I don't think anyone has mocked or condemned you. I'm sorry that you feel that way. I think many here in my interpretation of their posts have only sought to state their opinions on their religions and their opinions of the Catholic church. You should not take it so personally. You have every right of course to stand by your convictions. We each still have the right to believe as we choose and to worship as we choose. I certainly learned a few things from your posts and thank you for sharing.

T'belle

Good post Tbelle. If the shoe fits .................. :D Hey Matt no hard feelings just happen to be the topic of this thread. Protestants have been battling against the shackles of Catholicism for a very long time. What do you think of the Pope bowing to Islam ? :rolleyes:

You're welcome! I hope you continue to post on other threads. Sometimes we do hit some controversial topics which we all don't agree on. I think the other members here are just very passionate in their beliefs and sometimes come on strong!:peace:

Hey you talking about me ???? :D ;)

QUOTE=Isaac-Saxxon;20616]Hey you talking about me ???? :D ;)[/quote]

:arrow: Need I say more?

There is nothing wrong with a little "passion" every now and then!

Especially on THIS subject!
And, Matty, Don't assume to know MY level of research or willingness to understand Catholicism! I could have easily brought up things that would have really upset you, But I did not-I thought our discussion was quite civil. No-one here was attaking you, I was being NICE. But, if you say things people don't agree with- expect to be called on it. I would expect the same from you! This is a public forum:peace:

I thought the post were civil too. I think of churches and organized religion as a set of controls placed on men by other men in order to control them. We all live under some kind of control in our life but then there are the religionists and emotionalism that are a major part of the "Matrix" with government, education and economy being other major factors. Are you plugged in to the system and told what to believe ? Step back take a deep breath and read for yourself. I love this line from the Matrix. Matty this could a wake up call so take the blinders off and hang on for the ride ;) :pray::pray:
http://www.shreveport.com/forums/sho...playnow&gid2=0

How does that old saying go? "The two things you don't talk about in public are religion and politics!" LOL, those two seem to be the most passionate topics on this board. I've seen a highly technical discussion board blow up over these subjects during a crisis such as 9/11. Normally everyone gets along because of their shared interest or job. But once the topic drifts to religion and politics, things blow up quick.

It just seems that people naturally segregate themselves from people who believe differently than they do, and hang out with people who believe like they do. Most sites are for one or the other but not both. Few sites seem to fulfill the needs of Republicans AND Democrats or Christians AND Muslims for example. But some do like google and yahoo where there are groups of all types.

That is what grandma would say about sitting down for dinner. The thread is here and feelings run deep. Some choose the top of the fence :rolleyes:

Sitting atop a strong tall fence isn't a bad place to be during a flood. :duck:

your fence is neither tall or strong :D but luke warm. Stand for something or fall for anything ;) Dare to be a Daniel :pray:

I don't want to be caught riding the fence when that day comes. Nope not I.

I agree with your post Texasbelle. I think everybody has their own way or worship. Some real deep and others that like to stay on the surface. I am OK with either one.

Did you have time in this life to read the Book ? There is no one that will make you read it. You read it not because you have to but because you want to. :pray:

I think it is a choice that people make to get up a few minutes earlier say at 5:30 for that quiet time to spend time studying the Word. For me this month, it's a study of David. What's your study ?

II Kings and I Peter. It amazes me just how much there is to be learned and the fact that you never can learn it all. People do hobbies and read to relax and do it for the challenge ? When someone is ready for THE challenge it is time to pick up the BOOK and read. One of my favorite parts of the Bible is the power struggle between David and Saul and how well David handled himself. Good post Tbelle.

The book of DAVID is my favorite. A true example of FAITH !

I wonder where Deacon rhertz is today ??? I am sure he can make a good post to this thread. Hey "Richard" hertz we need to hear from you.

If you think Catholism gets the heat, try being a Pagan in the Bible Belt. Everyone thinks we're devil worshippers and refuse to admit otherwise. There are a lot of hate mongers out there.

Anywho, I'm sure no one is trying to attack your religion, Matty. No one has ever tried to attack my religion (except for BSr). I tend to discuss my religion only with those who legitimately and respectfully prompt me for it. Those who come at me with an attitude or insults will either get ignored or get my own attitude in return. I don't play others' games when discussing religion. I keep an open mind so that I can give others their fair share of space and I expect the same treatment in return.

Anime, so far by you admitting the Pagan thing it has severly limited my ability to get your a date. Actually, I've been unable. Would you consider giving God a try?

Already did, more than once, and it is simply not my path. I won't pretend to be faithful to a God that isn't my own. I know God would not want me at church anyway if I was only there to get a date. And no woman who takes religion so seriously that she can't overlook my being a Pagan would respect me if I must pretend to be a Christian to keep her.

Sorry, but I won't convert just because I am single. It would be unfair to me, that potential date, and unfair to God.

There are open-minded Christians out there who can overlook their partner's religion while keeping their own. Those relationships can work. I could care less what my partner's religion is and I know that I am not the only one who feels that way.