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Al Swearengen 04-20-2007 12:32 AM

Al Swearengen presents "The Armed Citizen"
 
Studies indicate that firearms are used more than 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that the presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances. Shooting can usually be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life, limb, or in some cases, property. It is in this spirit that I will reproduce here, for your reading pleasure, excerpts from the "Armed Citizen" column of the NRA's official journal "America's 1st Freedom". Enjoy!

When a Harlem thug saw Margaret Johnson, a grandmother who has been confined to a wheelchair since a 2001 injury, he thought he had an easy target. The friendly Johnson said hello to the man, but according to police, he responded by grabbing her around the neck in an attempt to steal her necklace. But he had underestimated Johnson, an NRA member and accomplished target shooter who was on her way to the gun range. She reached for her registered pistol and shot her assailant, sending him running. Police caught up with Johnson's assailant half a block away.

New York Post
New York, N.Y.,09/09/06

AnimeSpirit 04-20-2007 12:48 AM

LMAO!!! That's great! Talking about having a BAD sense of who the best targets are. :D

Al Swearengen 04-20-2007 12:59 AM

Al Swearengen presents "The Armed Citizen"
 
When Michael Slonaker heard an unexpected, midnight-hour knock at his door, he cautiously answered it armed with a handgun. Unbeknownst to him, two juveniles were standing behind his front door, one clucthing a baseball bat and the other holding a shotgun. As Slonaker opened the door, the juvenile holding the shotgun began to raise it. Slonaker fired two shots, hitting both assailants. The shotgun-toting youth, who had been on probabtion, was killed. His accomplice was arrested when he sought treatment at the hospital for a gunshot wound.

Kokomo Tribune
Kokomo, Ind.,09/06/06

Neo 04-20-2007 12:02 PM

Sounds like that caught criminals, limited paperwork, limited manhours, and most likely deterred future crimes. Al could be on to something here.... the national debt may be solved!!!!

Can you write any of the expenses off on taxes?

rhertz 04-20-2007 08:54 PM

More thoughts from Tom Gresham on the subject:

"Barely more than a year ago House Bill 1572 couldn't even make it out of committee in the Virginia General Assembly. The bill would have made it legal for students and staff at Virginia universities to have guns for their own protection. Today's shooter did not wait for such a law, and took advantage of the government-mandated victim-state.

When House Bill 1572 was defeated, state newspapers reported: "Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. 'I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.'"

Al Swearengen 04-26-2007 03:57 AM

Al Swearengen presents "The Armed Citizen"
 
Samuel Mitchell was exiting his church after choir practice, unaware that two blocks away events were in motion that would change his life. Police say a robber attempted to rob a man and a woman, and the victims fled in opposite directions. The suspect pursued the female toward the church, where Mitchell had gotten into his truck. As he was leaving the parking lot, the woman climbed into Mitchell's vehicle and pleaded for help. When the suspect caught up, he stuck apistol inside the truck window and announced a carjacking. Mitchell, who has a concealed carry permit, responded by producing his own pistol and shooting the suspect, who died at the hospital.

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
Little Rock, Ark., 09/15/06

Isaac-Saxxon 04-26-2007 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
Samuel Mitchell was exiting his church after choir practice, unaware that two blocks away events were in motion that would change his life. Police say a robber attempted to rob a man and a woman, and the victims fled in opposite directions. The suspect pursued the female toward the church, where Mitchell had gotten into his truck. As he was leaving the parking lot, the woman climbed into Mitchell's vehicle and pleaded for help. When the suspect caught up, he stuck apistol inside the truck window and announced a carjacking. Mitchell, who has a concealed carry permit, responded by producing his own pistol and shooting the suspect, who died at the hospital.

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
Little Rock, Ark., 09/15/06

Molon Labe! to you Al :clap: Good post Sir. I see on the front page of the liberal rag sheet the Times this morning that they want to take our guns and and push their socialist agenda down our throat :nono: :nono: BS on that and I say place the guns back in the hands of the American People :clap: Crime will fall to the ground :laugh: and a brother will think twice before he pulls his 9 out to do a crime because odds are he would be looking down the barrel of a 44 and that would be the last thing he saw.

Sheba 04-26-2007 05:48 AM

Seems so simple to me...
 
Take away the right to carry a gun and you take away citizenship altogether. Our forefather's recognized that. Great stories & a great cause, Al!! Got more?

Santabot 04-26-2007 06:52 AM

I'm a fan of those who support gun maintenance by citizens of America. By limiting our control of arms, we have no means to protect ourselves against the police; hence, a police state overwhelms the population. Here are some lyrics from a band I love called Leftover Crack:

http://media.putfile.com/So-You-Wanna-Be-A-Cop

Quote:

Originally Posted by So You Wanna Be A Cop
[Stza]

So you wanna be a cop?
so you wanna be on the top
arrestin and shootin' all the kids on the block
incarcerate the youth of the next generation
and you get the high fives at the police station

[Ezra]

so you wanna wear blue
and prey on the people
go above the constitution where all men are equal
beat down the poor, the working class core
your a class trading mother****ing rich man's whore


[Stza]

'cuz it's a thin blue line between the love and the hate
if you so choose to cross it you're a nazi for the state
your injustice will crush us, the precious the few
so you wanna be a killer for the red white and blue

[Ezra]

you're a ***** to the crown
keep your own people down
you've got nothing to protect
but you're keeping the sect
for your own damn brothers you got no respect
and the killing won't stop when you become a cop

* the worlds getting madder and it ain't gonna stop
it's an uphill battle all the way until we reach the top
you got an answer in your holster
and no question to kill
you got a vision for society
and it's your will

[Stza / Ezra]

even the summer sun can't make this situation light
you've got the upper hand in a war
when you take away our arms and our means to fight


[Stza]

so you wanna be a cop?
you never stop with your wicked guns going pop
after 41 shots your grinning in the donut shop
your sickening behavior regulates this society
and musters all the sickness & hatred inside of me

[Ezra]

so you wanna wear blue?
well you're just the type
got an chip on your shoulder and an itch for a gripe
standing on a raft in an ocean of blood
but you're doin the killing and causing the flood

[Stza]

how can we tolerate this mad abuse of power?
you think a cop is never psycho till he stabs you in the shower
choking v
morning g
L.O.C
we never stop
and your death'll be sweet if ya wanna be a cop

[Ezra]

they say the sea is green and the sky is blue
and thats about right because we're below you
you cop an extra attitude when you come down my block
so you wanna be a cop?

* the worlds getting madder and it ain't gonna stop
it's an uphill battle all the way until we reach the top
you got an answer in your holster
and no question to kill
you got a vision for society
and it's your will

[Stza]

even the summer sun can't make this situation light
you've got the upper hand in a war
when you take away our arms and our means to fight


rhertz 04-26-2007 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santabot
I'm a fan of those who support gun maintenance by citizens of America. By limiting our control of arms, we have no means to protect ourselves against the police; hence, a police state overwhelms the population. Here are some lyrics from a band I love called Leftover Crack

Jeez how do I respond to that. I am FOR the police and also FOR gun rights. I did not know we needed guns to protect ourselves from the police. I thought we needed guns to protect ourselves from drug using robbers and bad guys.

BTW, at my workplace in downtown shreveport, there have been 5 car buglaries in the past 3 days. Stealing petty stuff out of cars to sell for drug money I bet.

Santabot 04-26-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhertz
Jeez how do I respond to that. I am FOR the police and also FOR gun rights. I did not know we needed guns to protect ourselves from the police. I thought we needed guns to protect ourselves from drug using robbers and bad guys.

BTW, at my workplace in downtown shreveport, there have been 5 car buglaries in the past 3 days. Stealing petty stuff out of cars to sell for drug money I bet.

Even still, you can't just assume and then make certain that your assumptions are correct. I can't speak for everyone, I'm not a thief, and I don't know what goes on in the minds of those who do such.

Texasbelle 04-26-2007 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santabot
Even still, you can't just assume and then make certain that your assumptions are correct. I can't speak for everyone, I'm not a thief, and I don't know what goes on in the minds of those who do such.

These people are usually interviewed after they are arrested which is why statistics from the local police department show that these car break ins and other similar break ins stealing items that can be easily hocked at the pawn shops are drug related. Before you try to argue with me, let me assure you that within SPD, I have friends in high high places.

Santabot 04-26-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbelle
These people are usually interviewed after they are arrested which is why statistics from the local police department show that these car break ins and other similar break ins stealing items that can be easily hocked at the pawn shops are drug related. Before you try to argue with me, let me assure you that within SPD, I have friends in high high places.

Which is further proof of the lack of equality in the upper systems. When you trust government to "secure" you and take over these programs to provide benefits, not any normal person can get the kind of information, say, someone like yourself could. I see that it's something that happens regardless of necessity, it's just how things work, and there's not too much of a precise way to stop corruption or inequality.

EDIT: I guess most of my ideas are based on my vision of Utopia, rather than sensible mannerisms that could lead to the most workable, yet maybe not the most perfect, solutions to issues.

Al Swearengen 04-26-2007 10:53 PM

Al Swearengen presents "The Armed Citizen"
 
The homeowners, who were asleep, "awoke to a living nightmare", said Seguin, Texas, Police Department officer Aaron Seidenberger. "A person had broken into their home, and now they were violently struggling to get the suspect to leave." The male homeowner fought with the burgler, who was armed with a wooden blub-like object he found inside the home. The homeowner broke free, retrieved a .40 caliber handgun from inside the bedroom, and yelled at the intruder to leave. When the burgler made a mad dash toward the homeowner, he was shot and killed.

The Gazette-Enterprise
Seguin, Tex., 09/05/06

AnimeSpirit 04-30-2007 12:34 AM

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Hey Al! Is that you in the white ball cap? I saw this and KNEW you'd be part of this mob. ;)

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