Either way God Bless America
 

I think most Americans say 25 and up have a deeper appreciation of History than do the younger kids. We are the super power of super powers and blessed with plenty of food and live on a fertile continent at latitude and longitude that is a place to grow food. I love ancient history more than say civil war but here recently have been reading some great books on George Washington and the French and Indian war. What a turbulent past was our birth as a nation. I love anything to do with history and will always take any correction with a smile :D I will do my home work tonight just for fun on it.
Thanks,
Isaac

Being only 24 myself, I guess that makes me an oddity of sorts, especially since my appreciation for history is already years old.

You don't get to be an independent nation just by declaring it, ask the Confederacy.

Also, a nation without a government isn't a nation. We didn't have a government (well, we didn't have the one that makes our country what it is) until the ratification of the Constitution).

What zealots like you are incapable of understanding is that no one is attacking Christians or Christianity, we're just tired of you forcing your religion on us. Practicing your faith when and where it's appropriate isn't good enough for you, you want to do it when and where you feel like it.

Did Roy Moore erect a monument in his own front yard? No, he wanted to do it on public property in direct violation of the law.

American History Civil War
 

I do know why I do not like to study much in the American Civil War is that is the saddest thing ever to see brother kill brother some times in the most literal way or cousins. It hurt us and made us stronger and 200 to 250 years is yesterday in terms of history. If you ever get a chance read "The Bullet Proof George Washington" about 100 pages paper back very, very good when he led the Brits in a campaign against the French Indians and had two horses shot out from under him multi bullet wholes in his uniform with our a cut. The Indians thought he was a god of sorts because they could not kill him after many tries he could not be killed so they had great respect for him after the war. Great book.
Isaac

Nazis? Did someone mention Nazis? LOL, don't make me invoke Godwin's Law!!! :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Joepole: That statement is incorrect. Socialism is a system in which a centralized government plans and controls the economy. Nuff said!

Joepole takes issue with the following: This statement is correct. I believe the word "Creator" appears in the Declaration of Independance. Yes, I know there is no mention of Him in the U.S. constitution, but since the Declaration predates the Constitution, score one for me!:clap: Besides, the Ten Commandments are a smaller part of the larger body of divine law recognized and early incorporated into America's civil documents. For example, the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut, established in 1638-39 as the first written constitution in America and considered the direct predecessor of the U.S. Constitution, declared that the governor and his council of six elected officials would "have power to administer justice according to the laws here established, and for want thereof according to the rule of the word of God."

I could go on but I think I've made my point. Oh, and the Confederacy was never interested in forming a nation, quite the contrary. Nations by definition have a centralized government. The Confederacy was the antithesis of nationhood.

Rude Dude
 

You have made your point SmashR. I could think of quite a few names that would fit you but for the sake of the people on this post I will with hold those
vivid descriptions. May be time you to go punch the clock. I guess you do not think you are a zealot :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I've developed a love for the history of our Country. Especially early there in the late 1770's and into the 1780's The task that they undertook, win the war, and THEN had to create the freakin' "government". no easy task. I'm looking forward to the HBO series about John Adams when ever it is completed.

Regarding your book about George washington.. doubt I'll read it, don't read much. But when ever the History channel does a special on him, I usually catch it.. Or any of the early contributors to the founding of our Nation.

And you are right 200 years is a blink of an eye. the Civil War was like "yesterday" Don't have to go back to far on my family tree to find info on those who fought in the Civil War.

To get back to the topic at hand, I'm a pretty easy going guy. I believe in live and let live, do what you want, as long as it doesn't bother me too much, and i'm fine.

This judge wants to put up the 10 commandments, I say LET HIM, no big deal, doesn't bother me any.

but I can also see the problem, with him disobeying higher court decisions against him. Did he Stand up for what he thought was right.. why yes he did, and for that I will give him MUCH credit. :clap:

But there is this nasty thing about the Judge disregarding orders from the higher courts. I can see the problem with this. Sure it's a hot topic because he was standing for his beliefs.

Through different times in this country, different things have been against the law. Possesssion of Alcohol was illegal for a time in this country. We did however CHANGE the law on this one (think you very much).

Currently the possession of Marijuana is illegal in this country. Regardless if you think it should be legal, it's not, it's illegal, and you'll go to jail for it.

Abortions were illegal in the country, now they are legal (currently)

Laws change, but what the law currently is, it needs to be enforced.
A judge knows this, and he knew what he was getting into, and again, I'll give him credit for giving the good fight. in the end he lost his job, and I understand why.

If someone wants to pass a law that says we can have the 10 commandments posted in every Court building in the country.. I got no problem with that either.

What I have a problem with.. is some of the coments made in this thread. I understand the differences of opinion, and some posts have made an attempt to civilly define their opinions.. But when people start throwing around name calling.. I'm offended to think I'm a socialist because I can believe in the legal system.

As citizens of the Republic we have the ability to change these laws, just have to get involved.

Again I completely understand/appreciate both sides of this issue.
I commend the Judge for making his stand, I feel for his loss, but that's the way it goes.

Hey whatever happened to that ruling, somewhere out west, they ruled to remove One Nation "UNDER GOD" from the Pledge of Allegiance.. after some father sued. did that **** ever go through ? I'm not a religious person, but I got no problem with my country being One Nation UNDER GOD. I'll take all the good karma I can find :)

I would just seem to me, there could be some debate on this issue, a more positive debate, not involving the name calling.

:peace: To you and yours.

...and maybe it's time for you to put the Bible down and pick up a Dictionary.

Maybe it's time for you to pick up a Bible before you attack
 

Has life delt you a bad card ? Then why so sour ? Mean spirited :nono: You say your in you mid 30's then act like it.
Isaac

Is everyone who disagrees with your propaganda and speaks out against it "sour", or just those that play the name game better than you?

Children of the Tares
 

I just watched your filth video and my it says wonders. You see young man even the dark side has their own way of worshiping their master. This is a free country and the purpose of this short clay life is to make our mind up as to which path we will take. I think that is called freedom of choice. It is for you to make up your mind what is best for you and no one else and the same goes for me I just picked a different direction that's all. I am a zealot as by definition because I have read the Bible more than once and I have studied for over 20 years and I KNOW what I believe and do not need a avatar or a preacher to tell me what to think. I study on my own. Now you choose to not like the Christian way of doing things that is fine I choose to not like the way anti-Christians do things either. So we agree to disagree. I have many friends that believe many things but none of them are attack dogs and for them I have respect not to push my views. Then there is always fox hole converts and I think we all know what that means. Calm yourself and go enjoy being with your people for your birthday at the concert and have a great trip. No more name game and I will stick to the subject when and if I have to address you in the future you do the same and show some respect for others around you it will make this forum much more fun.
Isaac-Saxxon

Sounds to me like this thread has run it's course, gettin' a little off topic there eh fellas ? play nice.

TGIF

:peace:

Thanks LateNight
 

I agree this thread has gone far enough. Much has been said and everybody can go back and read it and not have to guess where anybody stands. Have a great weekend to you ALL :clap:
Isaac