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Isaac-Saxxon 04-09-2007 08:39 AM

Is Christianity under attack by secular society?
 
It is Politically correct to attack Christians but no problem for Islam and gay rights or anything that is Anti Christian. Time for a change I would say :clap:
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Texasbelle 04-09-2007 09:22 AM

I agree that it is very acceptable to attack Christians and Conservatives, but please be sure you are tolerant of gays, Muslims, and all the other sore thumbs that stick out.

Me though I will stand up for myself, my God, and my beliefs. You can count on that.

Isaac-Saxxon 04-09-2007 07:40 PM

Way to go!
 
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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
I agree that it is very acceptable to attack Christians and Conservatives, but please be sure you are tolerant of gays, Muslims, and all the other sore thumbs that stick out.

Me though I will stand up for myself, my God, and my beliefs. You can count on that.

I agree TB :clap:

Santabot 04-15-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
I agree that it is very acceptable to attack Christians and Conservatives, but please be sure you are tolerant of gays, Muslims, and all the other sore thumbs that stick out.

Me though I will stand up for myself, my God, and my beliefs. You can count on that.

Then do that, but secularism has no central deity or figures to defend, it's only an aggressive action to maintain citizens' rights, not to assault your alternate lifestyle.

If you believe in such things, be that as it may, but do not introduce these ideas into other areas of life to deny others his or her right to have a life free of religious entities. It's a shame that people with a thinking mind who don't accept a giveaway answer from a book with no foundation are castigated in today's society because of their beliefs or lack thereof.

If Christians are so fundamentally militant against these other religions (which can easily be seen as nothing more than gang wars), they should learn to see other religions as nothing more than secular, because if they truly believe their own deity is the only true one, then there is no realization that there is anything else, a Muslim has no Allah and a Hindu has no Shiva if there is only one God.

The only reason Christians attack Muslims is because both sides stick to their stories (although personally, none of them have legitimate evidence to support either side) and they use this to label others and initiate a hierarchy.

Isaac-Saxxon 04-15-2007 07:05 PM

Yea I have smelled this skunk before
 
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Originally Posted by Santabot
Then do that, but secularism has no central deity or figures to defend, it's only an aggressive action to maintain citizens' rights, not to assault your alternate lifestyle.

If you believe in such things, be that as it may, but do not introduce these ideas into other areas of life to deny others his or her right to have a life free of religious entities. It's a shame that people with a thinking mind who don't accept a giveaway answer from a book with no foundation are castigated in today's society because of their beliefs or lack thereof.

If Christians are so fundamentally militant against these other religions (which can easily be seen as nothing more than gang wars), they should learn to see other religions as nothing more than secular, because if they truly believe their own deity is the only true one, then there is no realization that there is anything else, a Muslim has no Allah and a Hindu has no Shiva if there is only one God.

The only reason Christians attack Muslims is because both sides stick to their stories (although personally, none of them have legitimate evidence to support either side) and they use this to label others and initiate a hierarchy.

Nice avatar ! Seems like I have seen that before. Your Anti Christian post has a bad ring to it. I will watch you post for a while a zebra will always show its stripes.

Isabella 04-15-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Santabot
Then do that, but secularism has no central deity or figures to defend, it's only an aggressive action to maintain citizens' rights, not to assault your alternate lifestyle.

If you believe in such things, be that as it may, but do not introduce these ideas into other areas of life to deny others his or her right to have a life free of religious entities. It's a shame that people with a thinking mind who don't accept a giveaway answer from a book with no foundation are castigated in today's society because of their beliefs or lack thereof.

If Christians are so fundamentally militant against these other religions (which can easily be seen as nothing more than gang wars), they should learn to see other religions as nothing more than secular, because if they truly believe their own deity is the only true one, then there is no realization that there is anything else, a Muslim has no Allah and a Hindu has no Shiva if there is only one God.

The only reason Christians attack Muslims is because both sides stick to their stories (although personally, none of them have legitimate evidence to support either side) and they use this to label others and initiate a hierarchy.

Hmmmm, you sound just like someone else here.

BrainSmashR 04-16-2007 05:57 AM

Gee....

I wonder how my low reputation is my fault, but the reputation of Christians isn't their fault...

Hey, I know.....maybe you could change your ways. That was a good enough suggestion for me, huh?:clap:

BrainSmashR 04-16-2007 05:59 AM

tell ya what.

I didn't realize this was under the "Religion & Spirit" heading. I'll refrain from engaging anyone here in future debate because at least you're nice enough to post in the correct place.

Isaac-Saxxon 04-16-2007 08:45 AM

The time of the harvest is near
 
So all those that feel a need to attack Christianity need to get it out of their system because when the change comes they will be on a permanent ignore list forever. :clap:

Santabot 04-23-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
I agree that it is very acceptable to attack Christians and Conservatives, but please be sure you are tolerant of gays, Muslims, and all the other sore thumbs that stick out.

Me though I will stand up for myself, my God, and my beliefs. You can count on that.

Well let me propose this: You view those with other religious beliefs as those accordingly, do you not? You believe they uphold the beliefs of their sacred texts, as well, correct?

If you truly believed your religion was the "only right one", you would view every person, living or dead, who did not believe in YOUR book, and live the life of a conservative fundamentalist Christian in America speaking English and living in the Deep South, as an atheist, someone without a true belief. If there is no Mohammad, no Jehovah, Shiva, etc, then you believe they are not actually believing in true dieties, but have personal beliefs of their own, that are "incorrect" in your eyes, am I right?

You seem to persecute those without your belief, yet your Holy book specifically states that you should outreach to those who share no beliefs, meaning Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, etc, not militantly assaulting them and ignorantly standing your ground as if you had something to truly fight for. Why don't you purposely subject yourself to a forum of persons that don't share your beliefs? Wouldn't that allow you to see more than one side of the picture? Maybe there are truths to things you're not aware of, mainly because, you're not aware of it. It appears you and others are continually subjecting yourselves to a daily treatment of Christian propaganda, rather than purposefully experiencing the intellect of other human beings, you know, those lesser peoples who don't believe in your Imaginary Friend.

Oh, and, by the way, if you weren't aware also, your Christian God, Allah, Jehovah, and all other Abrahamic sects believe in the, get this: same deity. If you also weren't aware, Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran, read up sometime, and stop prejudicing against persons you don't even truly know about, the fact is, you just don't care, and that's all the satisfaction you need.

Santabot 04-23-2007 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
Nice avatar ! Seems like I have seen that before. Your Anti Christian post has a bad ring to it. I will watch you post for a while a zebra will always show its stripes.

Also, I wasn't aware that I took the avatar from another user here, if that's the case. I found it a while back on a forum that I can't quite remember the name to, so it quite possibly could be one here. As for my posting content, I'm also not aware if I "sound like" someone you may know, but I assure you, I'm not.

Texasbelle 04-23-2007 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Santabot
Also, I wasn't aware that I took the avatar from another user here, if that's the case. I found it a while back on a forum that I can't quite remember the name to, so it quite possibly could be one here. As for my posting content, I'm also not aware if I "sound like" someone you may know, but I assure you, I'm not.

Well you sure are busy attacking the Christian beliefs tonight!!!! Where have you been? You haven't been around in awhile. Gosh we missed you!:eek:

Santabot 04-23-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
Well you sure are busy attacking the Christian beliefs tonight!!!! Where have you been? You haven't been around in awhile. Gosh we missed you!:eek:

If you're so genuinely affected by the "terrible secular society", why don't you just follow your leader? Turn the other cheek, forgive as your father has forgiven you, and present your evangelical message instead of being bitter and ignorant about your situation? If you were so secured about your deity's ability to defend you, then allow him to uphold that task, and go do something better with your time, like.. go to church and actually educate yourself on the book you claim to devote your life to.

cosmo kramer 04-23-2007 11:24 PM

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AnimeSpirit 04-23-2007 11:30 PM

Geez, Santabot, how do you post so much so fast? Do you actually put some thought in there or just your fingers fly? :freaky:

Isabella 04-23-2007 11:38 PM

At 17 he is capable of doing all sorts of things fast. Anime, I guess you are not the young one anymore.

cosmo kramer 04-23-2007 11:41 PM

Where did he go? Must be doing homework.

AnimeSpirit 04-23-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabella
At 17 he is capable of doing all sorts of things fast. Anime, I guess you are not the young one anymore.

Oh well, maybe I just took a longer break than I thought. I may not be the youngest anymore, but I'm young enough. ;)

Pocahontas 04-24-2007 07:26 AM

Is Christianity under attack by secular societly? I would say definitely yes here at SB Live by 2 individuals in particular. We all know who they are. I'm just wondering why they post here and not on an athiest board. I guess it would be too boring for them! :rolleyes:

Texasbelle 04-24-2007 07:27 AM

Pokie just hit the nail on the head!

Texasbelle 04-24-2007 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Santabot
If you're so genuinely affected by the "terrible secular society", why don't you just follow your leader? Turn the other cheek, forgive as your father has forgiven you, and present your evangelical message instead of being bitter and ignorant about your situation? If you were so secured about your deity's ability to defend you, then allow him to uphold that task, and go do something better with your time, like.. go to church and actually educate yourself on the book you claim to devote your life to.

Excuse me bitter little boy, but did I say that I was "terribly affected by the terrible secular society"..no I did not. You have assumed that. As for turning turning the other cheek, maybe you haven't noticed but I have been basically ignoring you. You have come on this board obviously looking for a fight and choosing to attack Christians. Knock yourself out. I am doing just as you state. My God will have the last say. Furthermore as for your last statement about what I do with my time, I am very educated on God's word but I am not going to sit here and debate it with you so that you can spew your venom and argue with us all day long on this board. That's the fight you are looking for. There are much better ways to deal with people like you and the Christians on this board know exactly what I am talking about.

I hope you have a great day. Many of us will be praying for you today.

P.S. It doesn't require a church to educate yourself about the word of God contained in the Bible!

BrainSmashR 04-24-2007 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas
Is Christianity under attack by secular societly? I would say definitely yes here at SB Live by 2 individuals in particular. We all know who they are. I'm just wondering why they post here and not on an athiest board. I guess it would be too boring for them! :rolleyes:


By the same token, one has to wonder why YOU are here instead of posting on Christian only sites??

rhertz 04-24-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
By the same token, one has to wonder why YOU are here instead of posting on Christian only sites??

By the same token, one has to wonder why YOU are here instead of posting on your very own community site at brainsmashr.com

Isaac-Saxxon 04-24-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
By the same token, one has to wonder why YOU are here instead of posting on your very own community site at brainsmashr.com

He must not be getting any hits on his site so he trolls here for someone to mix it up with. You know dealing with females seems to be hard for brain and with none in the nest he has to go find some that can not run from the Mullet Madness :laugh:

BrainSmashR 04-24-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
By the same token, one has to wonder why YOU are here instead of posting on your very own community site at brainsmashr.com

Apparently you don't pay attention very well if you don't see MY input on MY website.

Imagine my surprise....

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
He must not be getting any hits on his site so he trolls here for someone to mix it up with. You know dealing with females seems to be hard for brain and with none in the nest he has to go find some that can not run from the Mullet Madness :laugh:

Apparently you don't pay attention very well if you don't see the number of hits my website accumulates in every single post I make on this forum.

Imagine my surprise....

Texasbelle 04-24-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
By the same token, one has to wonder why YOU are here instead of posting on your very own community site at brainsmashr.com

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Pocahontas 04-24-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
By the same token, one has to wonder why YOU are here instead of posting on Christian only sites??

This is my first time being involved in a forum. I'll have to look into those Christian only sights. In the mean time I feel I agree with the majority of folks here. I don't find being in agreement with folks boring. I enjoy it!:)

BrainSmashR 04-24-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas
This is my first time being involved in a forum. I'll have to look into those Christian only sights. In the mean time I feel I agree with the majority of folks here. I don't find being in agreement with folks boring. I enjoy it!:)


Well let me be the first to clue you in, dear. By definition, a forum is a place where individuals or groups gather to discuss ideas and issues. Yes, it's pleasant when everyone gets along, but if everyone agreed on everything then there would have never been a need for forums in ancient Rome OR America today.

Texasbelle 04-24-2007 04:11 PM

Hey Brain..let me clue you in here since you appear most of the time to be quite clueless. The only person who should be calling Pokie or any other married woman on this board 'dear' is her husband so you should refrain from doing so as an act of respect. Please try and use some manners.

Yes this forum is for voicing opinions, etc. but you see people usually try and find a forum that has people who are like minded with their opinions. You however don't seem to get that concept.

Pocahontas 04-24-2007 05:13 PM

Dream on...
 
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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Well let me be the first to clue you in, dear. By definition, a forum is a place where individuals or groups gather to discuss ideas and issues. Yes, it's pleasant when everyone gets along, but if everyone agreed on everything then there would have never been a need for forums in ancient Rome OR America today.

I never said otherwise... I was only stating as to why I enjoyed this particular forum. Oh and by the way, I'm only your "dear" in your wildest fantasies!!:eek:

cosmo kramer 04-24-2007 05:20 PM

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HAHA! Picturing his wild fantasies....

BrainSmashR 04-24-2007 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
Hey Brain..let me clue you in here since you appear most of the time to be quite clueless. The only person who should be calling Pokie or any other married woman on this board 'dear' is her husband so you should refrain from doing so as an act of respect. Please try and use some manners.

LAF

Using terms of endearment is neither disrespectful, ill mannered, nor reserved for solely significant others.

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Yes this forum is for voicing opinions, etc. but you see people usually try and find a forum that has people who are like minded with their opinions. You however don't seem to get that concept.
No, the herd mentality is quite obvious to all predators. It's you who doesn't seem to get the concept that I am here BECAUSE of our differing opinions.

BrainSmashR 04-24-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas
I never said otherwise... I was only stating as to why I enjoyed this particular forum. Oh and by the way, I'm only your "dear" in your wildest fantasies!!:eek:

HELLOOOO

You questioned MY motive for being here, I wasn't defining forum for your benefit:laugh:

As far as the "fantasy"...I'm a white meat only kind of guy.

Isaac-Saxxon 04-24-2007 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
HELLOOOO

You questioned MY motive for being here, I wasn't defining forum for your benefit:laugh:

As far as the "fantasy"...I'm a white meat only kind of guy.

Hey pretty boy just what kind of white meat is that you go for ? Maybe tube steak :laugh: You sure do seem to like pictures of yourself to post on your web site. Do you ever find yourself in your truck backed in to a parking spot at a public park just hanging out ? :jawdrop:

BrainSmashR 04-24-2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
Hey pretty boy just what kind of white meat is that you go for ? Maybe tube steak :laugh: You sure do seem to like pictures of yourself to post on your web site. Do you ever find yourself in your truck backed in to a parking spot at a public park just hanging out ? :jawdrop:


And how come you study the bible at home? To many sacrifices as an alter boy

Isaac-Saxxon 04-24-2007 06:57 PM

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And how come you study the bible at home? To many sacrifices as an alter boy

Let me see buddy boy :rolleyes: You are the "confirmed Catholic" alter boy and I could see you in that position and the scars are showing in your hate filled post. It's my choice to study my BIBLE any place I choose. You never did say how you like your white meat girl :laugh: Brain is top water bait :p

BrainSmashR 04-24-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
Let me see buddy boy :rolleyes: You are the "confirmed Catholic" alter boy and I could see you in that position and the scars are showing in your hate filled post. It's my choice to study my BIBLE any place I choose. You never did say how you like your white meat girl :laugh: Brain is top water bait :p

Confirmed Catholic who has openly renounced his faith. Not freak hiding in his basement after decades of being "filled" with the spirit of the Lord.

Isaac-Saxxon 04-24-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Confirmed Catholic who has openly renounced his faith. Not freak hiding in his basement after decades of being "filled" with the spirit of the Lord.

Most people like you do renounce their faith. Read the first three chapters of Romans and you will see that your kind of life style is rejected so I can see why you are so bitter and you will drink from the cup of your choice. The harvest is near :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: You pit of filth :laugh:

AnimeSpirit 04-24-2007 07:36 PM

Are we losing our composure in here again?

Sheba 04-24-2007 07:42 PM

Perhaps a broader perspective.....
 
When has Christianity ever not been under attack? Just a few of the stories from The Book of Martyrs will give a few examples. I've walk down the Grand Plas in Mons, Belgium where the written accounts say that blood of the Christian men ran ankle deep as they were slaughtered. The women and children were treated with more mercy as they were buried alive in mass graves instead.

There are so many examples of present day persecution of the Christian church in other nations. How does that translate here in America? People are more vocal about everything, including anything to do with Christianity - both negative and positive. Every individual has to know what he/she believes and be able to articulate that well, to live a life a character when it's not popular, and to walk out a life of faith that embraces real people in real circumstances. That's a high calling and one we will answer for. But I'm not sure that we, as Americans, really know persecution.:hurt:


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