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Morpheus 11-07-2007 04:38 PM

raped by your husband?
 
I'm in my doctor's office and the tv is tuned to Oprah. There are a bunch of woman on here who were "raped" by their husbands. Granted there are some extreme stories here, but O is pushing that having sex with your husband when u don't feel like it is rape. I'm sure that mrs. Morph has done her "wifely duties" on occasion when she wasn't 100 per cent on board so to speak, but i don't think either of us would claim that i raped her. I guess according to Oprah i did. I can't imagine the repercussions of this for the average family with a wife that watches Oprah.

joepole 11-07-2007 04:49 PM

I believe we used to have a state law here that said you couldn't rape your wife, i.e. even if you held her down and forcefully penetrated her it wasn't rape because she was your wife.

joepole 11-07-2007 04:50 PM

Things like "it's rape if you don't feel like it" are part of the reasons the "1 in 4 women will be raped" statistic gets thrown around all the time. Nobody is allowed to question that, either, even though it's obviously untrue.

AnimeSpirit 11-07-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 24278)
I'm in my doctor's office and the tv is tuned to Oprah. There are a bunch of woman on here who were "raped" by their husbands. Granted there are some extreme stories here, but O is pushing that having sex with your husband when u don't feel like it is rape. I'm sure that mrs. Morph has done her "wifely duties" on occasion when she wasn't 100 per cent on board so to speak, but i don't think either of us would claim that i raped her. I guess according to Oprah i did. I can't imagine the repercussions of this for the average family with a wife that watches Oprah.

I understand that if you have sex with a person who exhibits a measure of resistance, particularly by saying "no," then you have raped that person. They don't have to physically resist. They only have to say "no" or something that amounts to that. I assume marriage is no exception.

Consenting to sex when you don't feel like it is not the same as being forced when you don't want to.

Al Swearengen 11-07-2007 05:55 PM

Then the question of force vs coercion comes into play. But what trips me out is men who claim theyve been raped by women...just seems to me that men who make that claim are sayin they've been betrayed by their own bodies...and even if we accept that as a possibility, theres still the issue of how he was forced to penetrate.

Morpheus 11-07-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit (Post 24282)
Consenting to sex when you don't feel like it is not the same as being forced when you don't want to.

It's not a huge leap to imagine an Oprah watcher, feeling empowered fresh from watching the big O, deciding mid coitus that, hey she doesn't want to be doing this and that she is, in fact, being raped.

Morpheus 11-07-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen (Post 24283)
Then the question of force vs coercion comes into play. But what trips me out is men who claim theyve been raped by women...just seems to me that men who make that claim are sayin they've been betrayed by their own bodies...and even if we accept that as a possibility, theres still the issue of how he was forced to penetrate.

I hear you Al! It's just not possible physically. Ask any man whose had a tad to much to drink (not me of course). Only possible scenario where this could be claimed is if you woke up with a double bagger next to you and no recollection of the previous nights events. I can see how you might plead that you had been "date raped".

rhertz 11-07-2007 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 24288)
It's not a huge leap to imagine an Oprah watcher, feeling empowered fresh from watching the big O, deciding mid coitus that, hey she doesn't want to be doing this and that she is, in fact, being raped.

Just quit watching Oprah and don't go to one of her African schools and you are safe. :D

Morpheus 11-07-2007 09:12 PM

I must add that I'm very fortunate in that I have a wife who's never refused me. I also think that she would never admit that she wasn't always 100% down with the gameplan. I wasn't so fortunate with my first wife. I once went more than 9 months without-my longest dry spell since puberty. I can imagine her claiming that I forced myself upon her with enough Salem witch hysteria in her corner.

Al Swearengen 11-07-2007 11:27 PM

Morph, wish I could say the same about bein "refused". My first wife used sex as leverage to get whatever she wanted (that started after we got married). My second wife had some serious sex issues. Both of them claimed to have been sexually assaulted/molested in their youth, and curiously, both are probably borderline personalities. One thing I noticed from my time on the datin scene followin the second divorce was just how many women I'd met who claimed to have been raped or molested...and I didnt walk, I ran like hell whenever I came across one of those! I was beginnin to think there wasnt a single woman in Shreveport/Bossier who hadnt been victimized at some time in her life, but was bound and determined to find one, and eventually did. So, a word to the wise...if ya want a healthy marriage/relationship, think twice before gettin seriously involved with any woman who tells ya she's been raped or molested, or by God you'll be sorry.

Pocahontas 11-08-2007 07:34 AM

I think that no means no wife or not. It's always best when both parties are in the mood. When one isn't (usually the wife) it's not so good anyway. I'm guessing the women on Oprah (didn't see it) probably felt more emotionally raped by their husbands than the actual physical act.

guitarman 11-08-2007 07:41 AM

The mood :rolleyes: Needs to be a flag at the door to let everybody concerned know what the "MOOD" is. Sometimes my pocketbook gets in a bad mood too ;) No honey no money !



Got to love this one ! Where is Tbelle this song is for you :laugh:

Pocahontas 11-08-2007 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 24292)
I must add that I'm very fortunate in that I have a wife who's never refused me.

You must be a newlywed then!:laugh:

Isaac-Saxxon 11-08-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 24327)
Yes Pokie I am! Three years this October. I have heard that you're a newlywed until you hit double digits. However, with my first wife the honeymoon was over in a matter of months if not weeks. I thought it was normal, since you always hear jokes about it. i.e. Scientists have discovered a food that decreases a female's sex drive by 90%. It's called "wedding cake". I'm glad to find out that it doesn't HAVE to be true.

It never gets any better than a woman that wants to have a baby :D If you could bottle that energy you would be a very happy man :laugh:

Morpheus 11-08-2007 03:57 PM

Yes Pokie I am! Three years this October. I have heard that you're a newlywed until you hit double digits. However, with my first wife the honeymoon was over in a matter of months if not weeks. I thought it was normal, since you always hear jokes about it. i.e. Scientists have discovered a food that decreases a female's sex drive by 90%. It's called "wedding cake". I'm glad to find out that it doesn't HAVE to be true.

Morpheus 11-08-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarman (Post 24309)
The mood :rolleyes: Needs to be a flag at the door to let everybody concerned know what the "MOOD" is. Sometimes my pocketbook gets in a bad mood too ;) No honey no money !



Got to love this one ! Where is Tbelle this song is for you :laugh:

guitarman it says video no longer available....

Pocahontas 11-08-2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon (Post 24333)
It never gets any better than a woman that wants to have a baby :D If you could bottle that energy you would be a very happy man :laugh:

That is a very wise statement! Take note Morpheus...you just have one little one right? There still should be lots of baby making fun to go!;) I think Joepole might be in the baby making biz as well.:rolleyes:

Al Swearengen 11-08-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas (Post 24341)
I think Joepole might be in the baby making biz as well.:rolleyes:

I thought he was in the nitpickin semantics & question dodgin biz?:confused:

joepole 11-09-2007 08:55 AM

I have a 2.5 year old and a 10 month old (both girls).

I ain't makin' no more.

Isaac-Saxxon 11-09-2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole (Post 24346)
I have a 2.5 year old and a 10 month old (both girls).

I ain't makin' no more.

It is just a contract between you and a woman,two children, a judge and two lawyers. Why not roll the dice again joe you will never come out of bondage :laugh:

Pocahontas 11-09-2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole (Post 24346)
I have a 2.5 year old and a 10 month old (both girls).

I ain't makin' no more.

I believe Mr. P thought he was done with 2 girls as well! Guess what Mrs. P had other plans...we have 3 daughters!:lovely::lovely::lovely:Watch out for baby making mode it can cause all kinds of surprises!:smlove::handkiss::hug::bigkiss:

AnimeSpirit 11-09-2007 09:58 AM

I once knew a guy that had 9 girls. :D

joepole 11-09-2007 10:39 AM

No way. I'm getting my junk ruined (medical term) shortly.

Pocahontas 11-09-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole (Post 24354)
No way. I'm getting my junk ruined (medical term) shortly.

That should do the trick but be sure and have plenty of icepacks handy!:eek::hurt::sweatdrop:

rhertz 11-09-2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole (Post 24354)
No way. I'm getting my junk ruined (medical term) shortly.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.... And no matter how good you think you feel, listen to Poca... She knows what she's talkin'bout.. Ice packs are your friend. The more you take it easy, the better off you shall be. Keep in mind that I never listen to my own advice and often regret it. :D

Morpheus 11-11-2007 11:11 PM

Wow! I leave town for the weekend and when I come back, Joe's decided to be emasculated. Al, you should be ashamed o' yoreself!

Al Swearengen 11-12-2007 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 24430)
Wow! I leave town for the weekend and when I come back, Joe's decided to be emasculated. Al, you should be ashamed o' yoreself!

ME? LOL, I assure ya I had nothin to do with his decision to get cut, though I commend him for doin it. Been nice if he'd done it sooner, but better late than never I suppose. Of course, there's always the possibility that he aint got a say in the matter, like maybe the government decided that society'll be better off if his swimmers are incarcerated. Yeah, thats probably it!

rhertz 11-12-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen (Post 24433)
...though I commend him for doin it. Been nice if he'd done it sooner, but better late than never I suppose.

LOL, really I laughed out loud.... :D You two crack me up...

piemaker720 11-17-2007 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen (Post 24433)
ME? LOL, I assure ya I had nothin to do with his decision to get cut, though I commend him for doin it. Been nice if he'd done it sooner, but better late than never I suppose. Of course, there's always the possibility that he aint got a say in the matter, like maybe the government decided that society'll be better off if his swimmers are incarcerated. Yeah, thats probably it!


Way to go Al. I'd hate to know there was more than one joe running around. At least the 2 children are girls and will probably take after mother. Please joe don't wait, accidents happen.:D:laugh:

Texasbelle 11-17-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by piemaker720 (Post 24779)
Way to go Al. I'd hate to know there was more than one joe running around. At least the 2 children are girls and will probably take after mother. Please joe don't wait, accidents happen.:D:laugh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

piemaker720 11-18-2007 09:16 AM

Yoo hoo, joe this is happening soon uh. I'm serious accidents happen don't wait.:pray::pray::laugh:


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