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sbl_admin 05-11-2007 07:46 AM

Louisiana Lost Again
 
Steelmaker ThyssenKrupp AG said today it will build a $4.19 billion steel plant in the southern U.S. state of Alabama, which has attracted other German companies including DaimlerChrysler AG in recent years.

BrainSmashR 05-11-2007 11:41 AM

Anyone have any exact figures on how much money Bimbo Blanco wasted on trying to bring in an overseas company instead of giving currently existing Louisiana businesses a tax break?

I know she went to Holland to learn how to build dykes, did she go to Germany to learn how to make steel too?

piemaker720 05-11-2007 12:05 PM

According to what I just heard we will know in a few hours whether Louisiana or Alabama will get the steel mill.

purpahurl 05-11-2007 12:07 PM

We Were never going to get this mill. The Germans used us to up the ante on Alabama and get them to offer more incentives than they were willing to. It worked.

BrainSmashR 05-11-2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by purpahurl
We Were never going to get this mill. The Germans used us to up the ante on Alabama and get them to offer more incentives than they were willing to. It worked.


I have to agree.

As soon as they "crunched" the numbers on how much it would cost to operate in each state, we were out of the running.

BrainSmashR 05-14-2007 11:49 AM

So I heard this morning, via Moon Griffon, that Bimbo Blanco spent between 1.7 and 2 BILLION dollars trying to attract this steel mill that most of us knew would NEVER locate in Louisiana......while a SugarMill in St. James Parish is shutting down and about 150 full time and seasonal help employees are now jobless AND on unemployment. How many are going to be on welfare in 6 months costing our state and the taxpayers even MORE money? What fraction of the nearly 2 BILLION dollars that stupid ***** wasted would have saved those currently existing jobs?

But hey, I hear the newly remodeled Governors Mansion looks splendid....

How much longer will our state have to suffer under these stupid ****ing Democrats?

Isaac-Saxxon 05-14-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
So I heard this morning, via Moon Griffon, that Bimbo Blanco spent between 1.7 and 2 BILLION dollars trying to attract this steel mill that most of us knew would NEVER locate in Louisiana......while a SugarMill in St. James Parish is shutting down and about 150 full time and seasonal help employees are now jobless AND on unemployment. How many are going to be on welfare in 6 months costing our state and the taxpayers even MORE money?

How much longer will our state have to suffer under these stupid ****ing Democrats?

:goodpost2:

joepole 05-14-2007 01:44 PM

You are either misinformed or misunderstood. We certainly didn't spend $2B to attract them, that was the total amount (over however many years, 20? 30?) that the state was expected to give them in tax breaks and other considerations IF THEY LOCATED HERE. Blanco and the legislature actually spent a few million on the project.

BrainSmashR 05-14-2007 04:08 PM

Yeah, but the more likely scenario is that you are just running your dumbass mouth again, not to mention you failed to utilize this little thing called a reference. It's purpose is to support your story....but since it's pure bull****...no source.

Welcome to my ignore list, ****face. I work with criminals all day long, I'm not about to spend my evening socializing with them too.

rhertz 05-14-2007 06:38 PM

Does anyone remember when Shreveport spent $1M to court Boeing when they were thinking of building a plant here. If I recall, Boeing ended up not building the plant at all...

joepole 05-14-2007 06:38 PM

When you posted that earlier the website was down. Now that it's up I don't see any links on it that reference the topic. Granted, i didn't look very hard.

My source is the dozens of news stories about the plant over the last year plus the common sense to know that our governor did not spend two billion dollars to try and attract a business to Louisiana when our total state budget (discounting federal disaster aid) is around $18 billion.

>Welcome to my ignore list, ****face.

What did you tell me the other day, ignorance is bliss?

Does **** stand for s**t or f**k ?

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
Does anyone remember when Shreveport spent $1M to court Boeing when they were thinking of building a plant here. If I recall, Boeing ended up not building the plant at all...


Well, I'd have to say that a million dollars, even though it's quite steep for 1 city is still within reason to try to attract a company like Boeing.....wasting nearly 2 billion on a failed venture, even if a fraction of that is economic incentives is still going WAAAAAAAAAAAY to far.

I suspect Shreve would have seen a profit within 2 years on a 1 mill investment. How long before over 2 BILLION dollars worth of Louisiana Steel get's sold?!?!?!

joepole 05-15-2007 08:56 AM

I think the estimates were about 5 years. It's tough to nail down exact figures because most of the discussions were private.

Also, much, if not most, of the incentives were eliminations of taxes/fees that would otherwise be added by their presence, not expenditures of existing funds. It's all pretty standard economic development stuff. I'm no Blanco fan, but this deal wasn't outrageous.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-15-2007 09:22 AM

Kathy Blanco's road to hell :eek: She will have to go down as one of the lamest ducks to ever be Governor of this state. Damage done time to move on and hope to draw a better card next time.

Mokkori 05-15-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Yeah, but the more likely scenario is that you are just running your dumbass mouth again, not to mention you failed to utilize this little thing called a reference. It's purpose is to support your story....but since it's pure bull****...no source.

Welcome to my ignore list, ****face.

Hahahaha, well done. :clap:

"YOU HAVE NO PROOF. AND JUST IN CASE YOU DO, I WILL GO AHEAD AND STICK MY FINGERS IN MY EARS SO YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO ME. LALALALALALALALALALAA!!!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
I work with criminals all day long, I'm not about to spend my evening socializing with them too.

Where exactly did you get that he's a criminal? You failed to utilize this little thing called a reference. It's purpose is to support your story.

Or are you just spouting wild claims with no factual basis whatsoever? That's what you ignored someone else for allegedly doing. Better put BrainSmashR on your ignore list too, he seems to be fabricating stuff.

Texasbelle 05-15-2007 02:35 PM

Looks like the brat could be back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokkori
Hahahaha, well done. :clap:

Where exactly did you get that he's a criminal? You failed to utilize this little thing called a reference. It's purpose is to support your story.

Or are you just spouting wild claims with no factual basis whatsoever? That's what you ignored someone else for allegedly doing. Better put BrainSmashR on your ignore list too, he seems to be fabricating stuff.


It's called a confession and I didn't reference it because everyone here with the exception of one dumbass, that being you, has read it already.

Try educating yourself before showing us all how utterly stupid one dope head can be.

Mokkori 05-15-2007 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
It's called a confession and I didn't reference it because everyone here with the exception of one dumbass, that being you, has read it already.

Try educating yourself before showing us all how utterly stupid one dope head can be.

"Dope head", huh? It's pretty ignorant to assume that someone is a marijuana user based on one forum post. I can assure you I'm not.

But then that's your style, isn't it? When challenged, you abandon factual argument and go straight for ad hominem with a liberal dose of swearing and namecalling for added effect.

Face it. You were wrong about the amount of money invested in this project. You screwed up. You trusted some radio personality.

And the money was not "wasted". It was an investment that didn't pan out. Investments do that sometimes. Attracting foreign investment is good for the economy. It is not, however, free. It's a cutthroat business, and incentives need to be offered.

Alabama made similar investments, and it has paid off for them. It's disappointing to lose, but you just get back up and try again next time. Do you think the Saints were a failure last year? I don't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The News Star in May 2005
As you know, my economic development team is aggressively pursuing more than one-hundred leads with a potential capital investment of $13 billion. The largest lead we are pursuing is the ThyssenKrupp Steel Mill. In December, you set aside $300 million as a down-payment to secure this project. Alabama has since put up $400 million.

Let me be clear - we are very much in the running. I'm asking you to set aside an additional $100 million to match Alabama's commitment. In the event we land the steel mill, I will ask you to immediately raise the cap so that we can access the $300 million in infrastructure funding already set aside.

Whether or not the mill comes to Louisiana, we're winners. We've shown that we are major contenders, beating out almost 70 locations to land in the top two. No one can stop us now. Louisiana can and will compete on the world stage.

See? Other leads. Other investments. It wasn't some kind of gigantic casino bet in which losing the mill meant losing all that investment.

In keeping with the spirit of this thread, I shall end by calling you a stinky doodoohead.

B1FF 05-15-2007 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokkori
Hahahaha, well done. :clap:

"YOU HAVE NO PROOF. AND JUST IN CASE YOU DO, I WILL GO AHEAD AND STICK MY FINGERS IN MY EARS SO YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO ME. LALALALALALALALALALAA!!!"



Where exactly did you get that he's a criminal? You failed to utilize this little thing called a reference. It's purpose is to support your story.

HEY DUMASS THE D000 SAID HE WRAPED HIS KID UP LIK E THE FOOKIN MUMMY IN A TOWAL.

ONFE THING THAT U ARE RIT ABOUYT IS WEED IT IS KEWL!!!

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokkori
"Dope head", huh? It's pretty ignorant to assume that someone is a marijuana user based on one forum post. I can assure you I'm not.

No, what's ignorant is to think pot is the only form of "dope" or that anyone here doesn't know exactly who YOU are.


Quote:

But then that's your style, isn't it? When challenged, you abandon factual argument and go straight for ad hominem with a liberal dose of swearing and namecalling for added effect.
Yes, honesty is ALWAYS the best policy.
Quote:

Face it. You were wrong about the amount of money invested in this project. You screwed up. You trusted some radio personality.
and yet just like you're boyfriend, you've failed miserably at providing proof to support YOUR claims.
Quote:

And the money was not "wasted". It was an investment that didn't pan out. Investments do that sometimes. Attracting foreign investment is good for the economy. It is not, however, free. It's a cutthroat business, and incentives need to be offered.
Investing money is currently existing business ALWAYS works out, stupid.
Quote:

Alabama made similar investments, and it has paid off for them.
Alabama isn't governed by a retarded Democrat either.
Quote:

It's disappointing to lose, but you just get back up and try again next time. Do you think the Saints were a failure last year? I don't.
The Saints have been failures since their inception, not unlike you.

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See? Other leads. Other investments. It wasn't some kind of gigantic casino bet in which losing the mill meant losing all that investment.
Investing the money in currently existing business means your funds go farther, AND you will see a return on your investment in the form of tax revune....and god forbid, we could havegivem the existing business a tax break instead of cash money and ALLOW THEM to help themselves.

Instead, that stupid ***** DID gamble our tax dollars away, but of course you'd actually have to have moved out of your Mommy's house to know something about the outside world.
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In keeping with the spirit of this thread, I shall end by calling you a stinky doodoohead.
As if anyone expected anything more than a childish comment from a child so ashamed of his identity that he lies about it like we DON'T know who you are.

Mokkori 05-15-2007 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Investing money is currently existing business ALWAYS works out, stupid.

What's your Enron stock worth these days? NorTel? Investing is always a risk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
As if anyone expected anything more than a childish comment from a child so ashamed of his identity that he lies about it like we DON'T know who you are.

Really? Who am I?

On a childish scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is not very childish and 10 is the most childish one can get, where do you rate "doodoohead"? And how about "stupid", as in your first paragraph? In my world they're gnats'-wings apart.

joepole 05-15-2007 06:34 PM

>Investing money is currently existing business ALWAYS works out, stupid.

It does?

>and yet just like you're boyfriend, you've failed miserably at providing proof to support YOUR claims.

1. The possessive form of "you" is "your." "You're" is a contraction for "you are."

2. He (and I) have provided exactly as much proof as you have. The difference is I am right and you are wrong, just like when you tried to read the justifiable homicide statute.

>like we DON'T know who you are.

Who is he?

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokkori
On a childish scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is not very childish and 10 is the most childish one can get, where do you rate "doodoohead"? And how about "stupid", as in your first paragraph? In my world they're gnats'-wings apart.

Stupid is in the dictionary, children make up their own words, like doodoohead for instance.

The rest of your post doesn't even deserve comment as choosing to invest your money in drugs is YOUR fault, not mine.

B1FF 05-15-2007 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Stupid is in the dictionary, children make up their own words, like doodoohead for instance.

The rest of your post doesn't even deserve comment as choosing to invest your money in drugs is YOUR fault, not mine.

DOOD HE CALLED YOU A DOOD DOOD THATS LIEK BEIN G A DOOD TIMES TWICE!! THaT MAEKS YOU ALMOS T AS KEWL AS DA B1FFSTA!!

LateNight 05-16-2007 08:21 AM

Another thread bites the dust.. and dood, don't diss the Saints :D

:gosaints:

BrainSmashR 05-16-2007 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateNight
Another thread bites the dust.. and dood, don't diss the Saints :D

:gosaints:


LAF

I'll stop "dissing" the Saints when they start EARNING that $186 million dollars dumbass Mike Foster payed to keep their no superbowl ring having asses here.

BTW, do you know who's HAS been to the Superbowl more times than any other team in the history of the NFL?

http://www.mediamachines.com/uploads...go/3/thumb.jpg


That's right buddy, America's team

Isaac-Saxxon 05-16-2007 11:43 AM

Worm wood has let the worm get deep into his brain and he is lashing out in all directions with absolutely no credibility. I do not think this comes as any surprise to anyone that post on this board. Poor baby :bawl: :bawl: it having a hissy. You do not even believe your own words girl :rolleyes:

BrainSmashR 05-16-2007 11:45 AM

Actually it's a fact, stupid. Superbowl.com



8 Dallas, V-VI, X, XII-XIII, XXVII-XXVIII, XXX
6 Denver, XII, XXI-XXII, XXIV, XXXII-XXXIII
Pittsburgh, IX-X, XIII-XIV, XXX, XL
5 Miami, VI-VIII, XVII, XIX
Washington, VII, XVII-XVIII, XXII, XXVI
San Francisco, XVI, XIX, XXIII-XXIV, XXIX
Oakland/L.A. Raiders, II, XI, XV, XVIII, XXXVII
New England, XX, XXXI, XXXVI, XXXVIII-XXXIX


BTW, I lash out at stupidity just as often as you try to convert the non believer. The difference is there are readily verifiable facts and UNDENIABLE evidence supporting my statements.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-16-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Actually it's a fact, stupid. Superbowl.com


8 Dallas, V-VI, X, XII-XIII, XXVII-XXVIII, XXX
6 Denver, XII, XXI-XXII, XXIV, XXXII-XXXIII
Pittsburgh, IX-X, XIII-XIV, XXX, XL
5 Miami, VI-VIII, XVII, XIX
Washington, VII, XVII-XVIII, XXII, XXVI
San Francisco, XVI, XIX, XXIII-XXIV, XXIX
Oakland/L.A. Raiders, II, XI, XV, XVIII, XXXVII
New England, XX, XXXI, XXXVI, XXXVIII-XXXIX

Would be a great time for you to move to Dallas and be the poster boy :laugh:

BrainSmashR 05-16-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
Would be a great time for you to move to Dallas and be the poster boy :laugh:

Because they don't have the internet over there, right stupid?

joepole 05-16-2007 11:54 AM

>there are readily verifiable facts and UNDENIABLE evidence supporting my statements.

Except when discussing the law regarding shotting intruders. Then you post facts and UNDENIABLE evidence supporting the opposite of your statements.

LateNight 05-16-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
LAF

I'll stop "dissing" the Saints when they start EARNING that $186 million dollars dumbass Mike Foster payed to keep their no superbowl ring having asses here.

BTW, do you know who's HAS been to the Superbowl more times than any other team in the history of the NFL?

That's right buddy, America's team

I could care less who's been more often, no reason for me to be a fan of them.. and in the mean while.. I'll sit back and remember how the Saints last season handed the 'boys' their ass in a primetime blow out in the cowboys home stadium :) MAN WAS THAT FUN TO WATCH !!!

SAINTS 42
Boys 17
:yes: :clapbig: :gosaints:

BrainSmashR 05-16-2007 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateNight
I could care less who's been more often, no reason for me to be a fan of them.. and in the mean while.. I'll sit back and remember how the Saints last season handed the 'boys' their ass in a primetime blow out in the cowboys home stadium :) MAN WAS THAT FUN TO WATCH !!!

SAINTS 42
Boys 17
:yes: :clapbig: :gosaints:


I hope you recorded it because we BOTH know it will never happen again.

LateNight 05-16-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
I hope you recorded it because we BOTH know it will never happen again.

LOL you are such a goober.. and you're a cowboys fan to boot.. that explains
SOOOO MUCH LOL LMAO !!!

and if history is any indication, as far as your most recent Saints vs. 'boy's' outcomes..

Since 1996:

Head to head, wins: Saints 5, Cowboys 0

Head to head, points: Saints 135, Cowboys 64

Playoff wins: Saints 2, Cowboys 0

Should about cover it.

:yes: :gosaints: LOL

BrainSmashR 05-16-2007 06:26 PM

Only an idiot like you would expect anyone's favorite team to win EVERY single game they play.

However I DO find it interesting that you can actually remember the number of times the wost team in the history of the NFL actually won a game.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-16-2007 06:33 PM

You are living in yesterday. The day of the cow fags is past and the day of the Saints is at hand. Once again you choose to not see the facts in real time:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LateNight 05-16-2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Only an idiot like you would expect anyone's favorite team to win EVERY single game they play.

However I DO find it interesting that you can actually remember the number of times the wost team in the history of the NFL actually won a game.

What the heck are you talking about.. you're the idiot who went on about how the Saints were never going to beat your "boys" again. merely demonstrating to you, that your boys have been on quite the roll against the saints.

and no I didn't "remember" other than the INCREDIBLE beating your boys took this last season against the saints.. I had to look up the rest of the info.

and when did I say ANYTHING about ANYONE winning every game ?

LMAO :yes: :clapbig: :gosaints:

LateNight 05-16-2007 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
You are living in yesterday. The day of the cow fags is past and the day of the Saints is at hand. Once again you choose to not see the facts in real time:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:yes: :gosaints::funnypost2::goodpost2::laugh:

Tell it like it is sir Isaac !!

joepole 05-16-2007 07:15 PM

>Only an idiot like you would expect anyone's favorite team to win EVERY single game they play.

Isn''t that what you did? Am I mistaken or didn't you say that the Cowboys would beat the Saints every time they ever played in the future? If not, then what did "we BOTH know it will never happen again" mean?

BrainSmashR 05-17-2007 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateNight
What the heck are you talking about.. you're the idiot who went on about how the Saints were never going to beat your "boys" again. merely demonstrating to you, that your boys have been on quite the roll against the saints.

and no I didn't "remember" other than the INCREDIBLE beating your boys took this last season against the saints.. I had to look up the rest of the info.

and when did I say ANYTHING about ANYONE winning every game ?

LMAO :yes: :clapbig: :gosaints:

Exactly my point. If the Saints had a REAL fan base or a team they could be proud of, you'd know their stats like REAL fans know the stats of America's Team.

8 Superbowls, 5 victories... While the Saints have failed to make an apparence EVERY SINGLE YEAR they have existed.

I'll bet you $100 RIGHT NOW the Saints don't make it to the Superbowl AGAIN this year....forget about actually winning the thing.


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