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LateNight 10-16-2006 04:39 PM

Drink too much ? Drop some acid.
 
That's right, Tripping your way to sobriety. "Acid" as a cure for alcoholism.

rhertz 10-16-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Alcoholics Anonymous "felt that one of the major obstacles to joining Alcoholics Anonymous was 'Step 2, admitting that there is a higher power.'"

Even the co-founders of Alcoholics Anonymous, Dyck said, "felt that LSD was the first intervention that helped many people to reach this step."
I don't mean to be insensitive to AA or to the devistation brought on by the terrible addiction of alchholism. But what is it about our society were we always looks for a magic pill to solve all our problems? So now LSD is the pill to find or admit that there is a higher power? I think I'll stick to going to church or studing the bible. Gotta love the Swiss and Canadians though. Very imaginative bunch. But I am surprised that "we" didn't think of that one first.

By the way, who invented Viagra? I would like to curse them, if only for all the junk email. How about a pill to cure spam? I hope the French, Canadians, and Swiss are working on that one. I might still get spam, but maybe I just won't care as much. :D

Al Swearengen 10-16-2006 07:33 PM

I think this is fantastic news!
 
This article only serves to confirm what many of us already knew, namely that many of the illegal drugs have beneficial applications. Personally, I've always resented the hell out of someone, anyone, telling me what I can or can't do. You all understand what I'm saying, right? If I want to drop acid, smoke grass, or shoot heroin into my veins, what the bloody hell business is it of yours or the government's? And I'm talking strictly personal use here, so please, lets not have any comments along the lines of "but what about the children?" When you cut thru all the crap and get right down to it, the main objections to people pretty much doing whatever they want (provided nobody else is harmed or their rights infringed upon) are 1. We can't have people engaging in anything that smacks of original thought (in other words, we can't have people thinking TOO damn much about how inept and incompetent the establishment is at running things)...and 2. If we can't figure out a way to tax it, lets make it illegal.

Say what you will about the Europeans, but theres just no denying the fact that they're always a step ahead of us when it comes to "better living thru chemistry". They're always "setting the pace". Case in point, ABSINTHE!

rhertz 10-16-2006 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
Personally, I've always resented the hell out of someone, anyone, telling me what I can or can't do. You all understand what I'm saying, right?

yes I do understand. I have always wondered about the irony of what I can and cannot buy or do legally. I think your resentment is valid if you analyze what makes something legal (alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, etc.) verses somethign illegal (pot, opiates, etc.). I think a major factor here is basic racism against cultures and societies who do not adapt to "our" historic moral values. (That and dollars.. Follow the money) Could it be that my wife and I do things in the privacy of our bedroom that are actually illegal? Is that possible? How can that be in a "free society"? Who's business is that?

What I find ironic is that liberals (stereotyped as pot smoking and sexually experimental) are largely associated with the democratic party (for more government) while conservatives (alchohol drinkers and prudes) are largely thought of as republicans (for less government)?? At least in theory...LOL Seems to me like it would be the other way around. Perhaps this is why I like William Buckley. Actually both parties seem to be bent on larger government with no signs of shrinkage (ala Reagan)

Al Swearengen 10-16-2006 08:19 PM

RHertz, I couldn't have said it better. Well done.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-17-2006 07:19 AM

Skull and Bones
 
President Bush 1 & 2, Bill Clinton, John Kerry and Jimmy Cater all members
of Skull and Bones. My point is there a two party system or are they all
just members of the same game (George Orwell) society ? Think back to
the port security deal and all the above where on the same page but the
American public did not buy into the deal and they dropped it. Get this
President Reagan was the only president that was not a member and it
almost got him killed. H. Bush was a eleventh hour vice president pick
and yes he was and still is a member of Skull and Bones.
Isaac

joepole 10-17-2006 02:45 PM

Skull & Bones
 
Neither Bill Clinton nor Jimmy Carter went to Yale (Carter went to GA Tech and the Naval Academy, Clinton went to Georgetown and Oxford) so they weren't in Skull & Bones.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-17-2006 04:06 PM

Got me on that one
 
I did watch a show on the History Channel that linked them all together
thru something called ? The Bilburgers (spelling ?) This was a extension of the
Skull and Bones Society and also had links to the Free Masons. I found
the show very interesting. Maybe it was they where all Bilburgers. My
mistake. You are a very well informed joepole ! There where alot of very
famous poloticains at this secrect meeting they have each year and security
was tight and no cameras at all. Just makes me wonder what all these guys
have in common that we might not know thats all. Allen Greenspan was among
the guest.
Thanks,
I-S

joepole 10-18-2006 08:43 AM

Bilderberg
 
You're thinking of the Bilderberg Group, which spawned the Trilateral Comission and has nothing to do with Skull & Bones, which is the Yale equivalent of a college fraternity.

The Bilderberg Group is nothing more than a conference held each year so that important people can discuss in an off-the-record manner matters that are important to the US and Western Europe. What they have in common is that they are all powerful, important people that have the ability to enact change and influence policy.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-19-2006 08:52 AM

Bilderberg Fraternity of the powerful
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joepole
You're thinking of the Bilderberg Group, which spawned the Trilateral Comission and has nothing to do with Skull & Bones, which is the Yale equivalent of a college fraternity.

The Bilderberg Group is nothing more than a conference held each year so that important people can discuss in an off-the-record manner matters that are important to the US and Western Europe. What they have in common is that they are all powerful, important people that have the ability to enact change and influence policy.

So JOE ! That is not what I came away with after watching the show
on the history channel. It does not matter about which fraternity they
are ALL in. You do seem well informed on these matters. Do you trust
these guys ? Do you not see any common threads there ? Skull and Bones
and Bilderberg Group and Free Masons ? "enact change and influence policy"
that is just what I was pointing out ! Federal Reserve privately owned and
operated. One world government ? "off-the-record" these people are the
ones that run our government but hey what does it matter what they say
or do "off-the-record" ?


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