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Santabot 04-24-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit
You want references, SB? Here you go!


I've seen it, and I could bring you plenty of real-life local references that have tried it themselves after seeing this particular episode and completely laughing at the false view it has on the drugs represented. Sorry, but I don't have an belief that you're familiar with the effects first-hand to take you seriously here.

AnimeSpirit 04-24-2007 11:38 PM

I don't even care about the effect first-hand. There are people out there who have DIED because they messed around with drugs. The simple cut and dry question is WHY would you even want to risk it?

Bring me all the local references you want. My money says their heads won't be in the proper place to speak honestly about this topic.

List of celebreties who are dead due to DRUGS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...related_causes

Santabot 04-24-2007 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit
I don't even care about the effect first-hand. There are people out there who have DIED because they messed around with drugs. The simple cut and dry question is WHY would you even want to risk it?

Bring me all the local references you want. My money says their heads won't be in the proper place to speak honestly about this topic.

List of celebreties who are dead due to DRUGS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...related_causes

You don't honestly want me to crack out the lists of prominent Americans and historical figures that have been very active in drug use, do you?

AnimeSpirit 04-24-2007 11:54 PM

By all means, so long as they are all still alive and healthy and your source is legit.

Santabot 04-24-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit
By all means, so long as they are all still alive and healthy and your source is legit.

Many have died of natural causes, many are still alive and "kickin'"

I'll compile it tomorrow, bedtime for now.

LateNight 04-25-2007 12:07 AM

santabot, don't expect any straight answers from anyone here about Marijuana. take any poll, more people have TRIED, or USE marijuana, than are willing to publicly admit. And many of us have children, and were not about to encourage a 17 year old to use ANY drugs.

:peace:

Santabot 04-25-2007 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LateNight
santabot, don't expect any straight answers from anyone here about Marijuana. take any poll, more people have TRIED, or USE marijuana, than are willing to publicly admit. And many of us have children, and were not about to encourage a 17 year old to use ANY drugs.

:peace:

Of course, and I agree fully, I would never openly advocate their use, they are not for everyone; however, I've personally found plenty of use and their experience in my life is no doubt one of the most profound. I've been through about every drug and type there is, and I'm much less of a regular user now, although I still do continue for personal use and to prevent my tolerance from getting so low that I bug out again when I smoke the next time etc.

Texasbelle 04-25-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Santabot
Easily impressed.

Also, to your previous post: Where have you given me "facts" to prove that your claims are in the least bit valid at all? You've only said "I know from experience", yet you don't know the first thing personally about drugs. I don't care who you are, even if you're a doctor studying medicine, specifically these drugs, if you haven't experienced their use, do not ever make claims about what they do to you. There are varied degrees of reactions to drugs, I can agree I've once gone over the edge and been a bit tweaky at times, but I've also been the clearest I've ever been in my life in the period of using drugs. I don't take them to remove any ailments, I don't take them to make any statement, I take them (maybe 80% alone) because I enjoy the experience and the increasingly substantial amount of knowledge and spirituality they've given me over time, I've only rarely regretted doing certain drugs, and once I realized they were bad for me, I discontinued their use.

You are clearly a drug addict and don't understand that you are. Sad.

You state that even if a doctor who studies medicine who knows these drugs and their outcomes where on this board and what they could do to you that you would not listen so why do you want anyone to provide any information to you? You are not going to listen. You state you want first hand information. I gather this must come from someone who has clearly experienced them? So it would take an addict getting on here who has overdosed themselves, died, and been brought back from the dead to speak to you in order for you to understand? Those of us who have left with a family member that was addicted to drugs is not good enough for you? No, it's not because you want to continue to justify your use of the drug. You know it's wrong but because you are an addict and a smart one at that you are going to continue down this path until you self destruct. But don't worry, we are going to be sure today and pass along this information to the proper authorities. Don't be surprised when they come a knockin!!!!

You'll probably find that you aren't quite as smart as you think you are!!!!

LateNight 04-25-2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Santabot
and I'm much less of a regular user now, although I still do continue for personal use and to prevent my tolerance from getting so low that I bug out again when I smoke the next time etc.

LOL, to be 17 again. That has to be about the goofiest thing you've said so far. "Hey Doug, Hold my beer... watch this!" LOL

Isaac-Saxxon 04-25-2007 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LateNight
LOL, to be 17 again. That has to be about the goofiest thing you've said so far. "Hey Doug, Hold my beer... watch this!" LOL

:w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :laugh:

Sheba 04-25-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Santabot
Of course, and I agree fully, I would never openly advocate their use, they are not for everyone; however, I've personally found plenty of use and their experience in my life is no doubt one of the most profound. I've been through about every drug and type there is, and I'm much less of a regular user now, although I still do continue for personal use and to prevent my tolerance from getting so low that I bug out again when I smoke the next time etc.

Wow! Is it really OK to use this forum to openly discuss current use of illegal substances? I guess I'm naive enough to think SBL's board would at least raise an eyebrow at this info. I happen to know that here are readers and posters who are younger than 17. SBL, what's your stand?:confused:

Neo 04-25-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheba
Wow! Is it really OK to use this forum to openly discuss current use of illegal substances? I guess I'm naive enough to think SBL's board would at least raise an eyebrow at this info. I happen to know that here are readers and posters who are younger than 17. SBL, what's your stand?:confused:


Not only should the forum raise an eyebrow due to content, what about the f bomb dropped earlier in Santa's post. He is not quite of age to even buy a cd with that as a lyric. I guess laws are easily broken, just as easily it is to escape reality with drugs.

I can speak from experience, that widening of your senses and discoveries mentally you seek will eventually elude you. During the pursuit, you will require more fuel to chase the fleeting trance. Right now you feel you are under control, however, if you look to alter the mind are you really under control, or just looking to escape the Santabot.

You should speak from a recreational point of view as opposed to the advertisement of false facts.

Enjoy it don't preach it.

Allen Marsalis 04-25-2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheba
Wow! Is it really OK to use this forum to openly discuss current use of illegal substances? I guess I'm naive enough to think SBL's board would at least raise an eyebrow at this info. I happen to know that here are readers and posters who are younger than 17. SBL, what's your stand?:confused:

I should start by saying what I hope is obvious to everyone. The opinions expressed within the blogs, forums, etc. on this site are the individual opinions of members and do not reflect the opinions of the providers of this free service in any way.

In addition to that, if a member chooses to break the law, it is up to the local authorities to police that matter, not the service provider. For example if a robber uses the telephone to commit a crime, it is not up to BellSouth to police that. It is the duty of legal authorities who then can obtain a court order and/or subpoena for information from the service provider if it is deemed necessary by the authorities.

In other words, Shoot the messenger if you must, but please don't shoot the innocent horse he is riding! :D

In addition to the requirement to abide by all applicable laws, we do require members to agree to our Terms of Service (ToS) agreement when registering, which clearly states that our service will not in any way be used to commit a crime or break the law. Here are some highlights of interest:


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A possible violation that I do see here is that we require members to be 18 years of age or older. SantaBot has willing stated that he is 17 years old and therefore his account could be subject to termination until such time that he turns 18. I have never had the occasion to terminate any accounts thus far, and I will have to take this matter under consideration.

It is not our desire to moderate, edit, or control this board unless something obviously gets out of hand demanding our action, which would be very unfortunate situation. Nobody likes their opinions or views suppressed or edited out, but we do require our members to abide by all applicable laws and our ToS agreement. Just keep in mind that we are NOT lawyers ourselves but rather Internet service providers. If you witness anyone committing a crime on this site or elsewhere, we suggest you contact your local authorities and report it.

Allen Marsalis 04-25-2007 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo
Not only should the forum raise an eyebrow due to content, what about the f bomb dropped earlier in Santa's post. He is not quite of age to even buy a cd with that as a lyric. I guess laws are easily broken, just as easily it is to escape reality with drugs.

Although we do not "moderate" this forum, we do censor certain words as profanity. If you notice any profanity that our filter did not catch, please let us know by emailing info@shreveport.com or else sending a private message to sbl_admin. I am reviewing the list right now and I will probably add some new words and rules to the profanity filter today. Please keep in mind that this doesn't stop someone from posting a "variation" of the word by misspelling it.

Santabot 04-25-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
You are clearly a drug addict and don't understand that you are. Sad.

You state that even if a doctor who studies medicine who knows these drugs and their outcomes where on this board and what they could do to you that you would not listen so why do you want anyone to provide any information to you? You are not going to listen. You state you want first hand information. I gather this must come from someone who has clearly experienced them? So it would take an addict getting on here who has overdosed themselves, died, and been brought back from the dead to speak to you in order for you to understand? Those of us who have left with a family member that was addicted to drugs is not good enough for you? No, it's not because you want to continue to justify your use of the drug. You know it's wrong but because you are an addict and a smart one at that you are going to continue down this path until you self destruct. But don't worry, we are going to be sure today and pass along this information to the proper authorities. Don't be surprised when they come a knockin!!!!

You'll probably find that you aren't quite as smart as you think you are!!!!

It doesn't take addiction or death to have a bad enough experience with drugs to understand the adverse affects. Enjoy knowing that I've lost reason to believe anything you say and I should not hope to read or respond to you from here on out.


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