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9-11, 9-11, well 9-11 has nothing to do with iraq, never did. Might sounds good, make people feel better.. We should have "stayed" the course in Afghanistan, instead of pulling some troops out of there to go into Iraq. Capture Bin Laden, and run the Taliban completely out of there. Problem is, there ain't any money to be made in Afghanistan.
when ever this debate comes up, people like to holler and scream about Iran.. i've agreed 100 damn times around here, they are a real threat... throwing a trillion dollars at Iraq, does not help us any in Iran, it's only hurts us. so Iran does not equal a reason to be in Iraq.
Another tactic, is to accuse anyone of having a difference of opinion is to claim they don't support the troops, and then to wrap themselves in an American flag, and say rah rah. Look, I've known several folks, friends and family who have served in Iraq, I'm very proud of them, I wish like heck this crazy plan in Iraq had worked. They do what they are told, and I'm very proud of them, and I worry about them, and I worry for their families. This doesn't make me a ****ing Cut and Run democrat.. this makes me someone looking for a better freakin' plan.
and Isaac, I read plenty.. will admit i got thrown a little off being called un-american by the likes of you. another tactic by people in this debate.. have a difference of opinion.. you are labeled un-american. a socialist WTF ever..
You can compare jane fonda and Bruce Springsteen all you want.. I know it makes you feel better.. have at it. There's plenty of people who have difference of opinions about this war, they aren't over there in Iraq, talking with the insurgents. Call me a socialist left wing whatever new word you want to use, you know nothing of me and my politics.
someone asked what would be the plan instead of sitting around policing Iraq, in this war on "Terror" there are Al Quada cells everywhere, this war requires quick acting strikes, on insurgents where ever they may be. if Iran wants to build nukes, we send some missiles and we take them out. 10 years later if they try again, we blow 'em up again.. We don't spend 10 years occupying their country, hoping they'll change their damn minds.. You spend a couple of days blowing up nuclear plants, destroying some of their infrastructure.. after awhile, the people living there get pissed off at THEIR leaders, for not acting right, not at us for hangin' around for 10 years.
We need the ability to strike anywhere and everywhere at a moments notice.. spending a trillion damn dollars in Iraq getting bogged down in that cluster @#$@# doesn't help us.
You see this thread.. what its turned into.. when isaac brought this crap over into my LateNight forum.. can anyone blame me for trying to keep this crap out of there. I didn't delete Isaacs posts, he did, I edited one and took freakin' Jand Fonda out of my forum... the LateNight forum was about the music PERIOD. but to heck with that.
No one is changing anyone's mind here.. it's a waste of freakin' time and effort. God forbid someone have a difference of opinion around here, they're UN-American... someone has to stand up and ask the QUESTIONS, I'm not a cheerleader for this or ANY administration.
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