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Old 06-13-2007, 06:10 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
Domestic disputes usually occur at a couple's or family's home, where there are all sorts of household objects that can be used as weapons
Hey, I know lot's of women that can outrun a knife wielding maniac, not one that can outrun a bullet.

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...anythin from ash trays to guitar strings, bicycle chains, skillets, bug spray, screw drivers, golf clubs, liquor bottles, drain cleaner, pencils, keys, clothin irons, bowlin trophys, dogs, kitchen knives, baseball bats, compound bows, rat poison, panty hose, frozen leg-o-lamb and on and on and on...all have been used to kill, cripple, or maim!
but not one specifically designed to kill, like a gun for instance. Each and every one of those "weapons" you mentioned requires significantly more effort then pulling a finger in order to kill someone.
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Besides, you're talkin about people who physically abuse those they supposedly love...irrational, violent people. If somebody's gonna cross that line, they're gonna cross it regardless of their proximity to a gun.
If that's true, then how come every domestic dispute doesn't result in a murder?

My hypothesis is that every beating (not a slap or kick in the family jewels)) would have resulted in murder had the perp actually had a murder weapon within his immediate proximity....say a gun in his pocket for instance.

Remember guy, I'm relating personal experience here, not just an opinion. One of my X girlfriends was murdered and it is believed believed raped as well (her clothes were cut rather than "removed" as would be the case in the "alleged" consensual sex). I fully believe, due to my own experiences with orgasm, that this murder would not have taken place if the guy didn't have a gun. The rape probably wouldn't have either because a 21 year old 5'9" 140lbs woman isn't exactly a push-over either.
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Fortunately, the majority of heated family arguments do not escalate to broken bones and new orifices. For most folks, yellin, cussin, and slammin doors is about as bad as it gets.
Yeah, that's really nice, but last time I checked, slamming doors wasn't a punishable offense, and I'd even go as far as to say the police have never responded to a simple "door slamming" call.

I realize those are probably the most common types of family fights, but that hardly qualifies as spousal abuse, or any other punishable crime that could result from a domestic dispute....and those are the cases I'm referring to. Not the guy in the normal, stable relationship who gets pissed off and simply slams the door on his way out, I'm talking about the guy who catches his wife out on a date with her lover, and the guy who "thinks" something is going on because his wife spent to much time at Wal-Mart.
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Demonizin guns is just the sort of knee-jerk scare-tactic the gun-control maggots typically use to advance their agenda. They blame the weapon, not the criminal that wields it! And if that criminal's chosen weapon just happens to be a gun? Well we've all seen how effective the laws are at preventin that, right? So maybe if more of the rational, sane, law-abidin folks at the theater, grocery store, cafe, post office or where-ever are armed when the disturbed mad-at-the-world homicidal loser starts randomly shootin people...well maybe there'll only be two deaths before its over includin the afore-mentioned murderous bag-o-schit instead of ten, twenty or thirty innocents whose final, fatal mistake was that they failed to arm themselves.
Great story, but HISTORY tells a rather different version. Lot's of people got shot for no reason what so ever in the wild west when everyone was packing heat. And think about all the gangbangers who hit 4 kids trying to get 1 person. You want EVERYONE in that crowd to just start shooting back at whoever they think shot first?

Sorry, in my opinion, that's a terrible idea on so many levels that I'm not even really sure where to begin citing examples.
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To my way of thinkin, its pretty cut and dried...there are still more honest, hard workin taxpayers (good guys) on the street than killers, robbers, rapists, muggers, whatever...the bad guys'll always be the minority. So more guns on the street equals safer streets IMHO.
That's assuming everyone carrying a gun operates with a cool head while under fire. A pretty unreasonable assumption, if you ask me, considering the majority of "good guys" also have 0 experience being shot AT.
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Its nice to be in general agreement on the issue.
Yes it would be, but I believe society as a whole is safer under our current system with firearms only being carried in public by authorized personal and those with special permission in the form of a permit.

So let me ask you this, since we're on the subject. Every adult American, not previously convicted of a felony, has a Constitutional right to own a gun if they so choose, AND the right to seek a permit allowing them to carry said weapon in public as long as they meet all qualifications and complete all tasks.

Are you implying that we should eliminate said tasks and qualifications?

I mean, exactly how do you intend to put a gun in the hands of more citizens when every citizen already posseses, not just a right, but a Constitutionally protected right, to bare arms?

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