Supreme Court could take guns case

[joepole]

They'll probably decline to hear it...again.

Even if they do rule on it there's no guarantee their decision will affect anywhere outside DC, it all depends on what specifically they decide and how they word it.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by joepole

They'll probably decline to hear it...again.

Even if they do rule on it there's no guarantee their decision will affect anywhere outside DC, it all depends on what specifically they decide and how they word it.

If Clinton gets elected we all need to hang on tight to our guns. The DNC at large would like to take them away. Time for America to take a stand !!

[Al Swearengen]

So is it any coincidence that D.C. has the highest homicide rate per capita in the U.S.? Well is it? NO...it aint! See how that works?

[joepole]

D.C. does not have the highest homicide rate per capita in this country. In fact, their MSA homicide rate in 2006 (8.8/100,000) was lower than the Shreveport-Bossier City MSA (11.3/100,000). The homicide rate for the D.C. MSA was slightly higher than Alexandria, LA's, and slightly lower than Tulsa, OK's, around 63rd in the nation.

#1 was, unsurprisingly, New Orleans (21.7/100,000). #2 was Flint, MI (15.4), and #3 was Baton Rouge (14.4). The national average was 5.7.

The only way Washington gets near the top is if you start adding restrictions such as "among cities over a certain size" or "only counting crimes counted within the city limits instead of the MSA," neither of which reflect reality. The FBI doesn't publish stats for crimes committed within the actual, physical city limits (only publishes by MSA) but MorganQuinto does (a year behind). Restricting it like that puts Washington at #13 for 2005 (latest year available from them).

Source:

2006 FBI Uniform Crime Report

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by joepole

D.C. does not have the highest homicide rate per capita in this country. In fact, their MSA homicide rate in 2006 (8.8/100,000) was lower than the Shreveport-Bossier City MSA (11.3/100,000). The homicide rate for the D.C. MSA was slightly higher than Alexandria, LA's, and slightly lower than Tulsa, OK's, around 63rd in the nation.

#1 was, unsurprisingly, New Orleans (21.7/100,000). #2 was Flint, MI (15.4), and #3 was Baton Rouge (14.4). The national average was 5.7.

The only way Washington gets near the top is if you start adding restrictions such as "among cities over a certain size" or "only counting crimes counted within the city limits instead of the MSA," neither of which reflect reality. The FBI doesn't publish stats for crimes committed within the actual, physical city limits (only publishes by MSA) but MorganQuinto does (a year behind). Restricting it like that puts Washington at #13 for 2005 (latest year available from them).

Source:

2006 FBI Uniform Crime Report

Did you count Spring Lake and Cedar Grove in those numbers

[j.nc]

When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting in death row

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh, Guns of Brixton
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Guns of Brixton
The Clash

[Al Swearengen]

Alright Joe, upon further investigation, it turns out that you're correct. However,


In 1976, Washington, D.C., enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134 percent while the national murder rate has dropped 2 percent.

20 percent of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just 6 percent of the population - New York, Chicago, Detroit and Washington, D.C. - and each has a virtual prohibition on private handguns.

Drastically increasing homicide led Washington, D.C., to ban handguns in the 1970s. So useless was this that D.C. soon had (and continues to have) some of the nation’s highest murder rates.


So, suffice it to say that D.C. is a dangerous place, in large part due to the prohibitive gun laws. Now, ya smartypants nitpickin little busybody, I'm gonna hafta ask ya to refrain from commentin on my posts since you're so goddamn selective about it, ok? Quid pro quo...if ya want to add your less-than-useful .02, you're gonna hafta reciprocate by addressin questions directed back at you, just as if we were conversin in person.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Alright Joe, upon further investigation, it turns out that you're correct. However,

Ouch that's gotta hurt to say, especially for a salty ole dog like yourself. But it takes a man to admit when his opponent got in a good shot. I'm rootin' fer ya Al. Whip his butt!

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

In 1976, Washington, D.C., enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134 percent while the national murder rate has dropped 2 percent.

20 percent of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just 6 percent of the population - New York, Chicago, Detroit and Washington, D.C. - and each has a virtual prohibition on private handguns.

Drastically increasing homicide led Washington, D.C., to ban handguns in the 1970s. So useless was this that D.C. soon had (and continues to have) some of the nation’s highest murder rates.

I bet Joe packs a shotgun or pistol or something... he ain't no Yankee...

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

So, suffice it to say that D.C. is a dangerous place, in large part due to the prohibitive gun laws. Now, ya smartypants nitpickin little busybody, I'm gonna hafta ask ya to refrain from commentin on my posts since you're so goddamn selective about it, ok? Quid pro quo...if ya want to add your less-than-useful .02, you're gonna hafta reciprocate by addressin questions directed back at you, just as if we were conversin in person.

LOL, well, nothing wrong with some actual facts in a good debate. I love to see you two gettin' after it... But I hope you ain't gunna meet at the park at sunrise to cross swords......