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Old 02-15-2007, 11:02 AM   #1
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Tennessee Bill Would Require Death Certificates for Aborted Fetuses

If I walk up and hit a lady that is with child and she miscarries I go to jail for fratricide but a "Doctor" can kill the child in the womb and that is "Choice" I think that this hits the nail on the head.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252113,00.html
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:25 PM   #2
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Abortion is a sensative topic. It is merely my personal opinion, but I would agree with someone having an abortion only under certain circumstances. For one, if the child was conceived by an act of rape, I could see where abortion could be justified. Such a thing would be tramatic enough and I wouldn't want to grow up knowing that I exist because someone did a horrible thing to my mother.

Or if the mother carries an illness that is certain to be passed on to the child (i.e. HIV), I could see her unwillingness to bring a child into the world to deal with that kind of issue.

However, a lot of these young "players" that we see who choose abortion because they were too ignorant to "glove-up" need to grow-up first.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:32 PM   #3
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>I wouldn't want to grow up knowing that I exist because someone did a horrible thing to my mother.

If you found out tomorrow that was the case would you kill yourself?

Why should a child be punished for the circumstances surrounding its conception?
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Abortion is a sensative topic.
Yea, you got that right. And I'm not about to touch this topic with a 10ft pole. however, I will notice we have 3 "GUYS" posting about it. Personally I feel that as "guys" we got no business discussing this. We will never have to make this very personal decision. Yea yea, I know as potential fathers/boyfriends etc etc.. you might have a say-so. But the bottom line for me on this one, is it's a woman's choice, and I say let them debate about it 'till the cows come home and come to a decision. When men start getting pregnant, then your .02 will be worth something.

And that is ALL I'm going to say on this subject, I'm abandoning this thread quickly
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:17 PM   #5
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A child is a gift no matter the race or sex

I could never after having three daughters want to deal with knowing that I had a hand in killing any child in the womb or any where else as far as that goes. I have two friends that have been to that fire both have young kids now and every time they look that baby in the eye they have be thinking of the sibling that may sitting in the room with them had not they made that "choice" to abort. I do not disown my friends I can just see them at times stressing over something that happened ten years ago. I think any of you that have kids would agree to some degree on this.
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:32 AM   #6
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Oh come on now LateNight

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Yea, you got that right. And I'm not about to touch this topic with a 10ft pole. however, I will notice we have 3 "GUYS" posting about it. Personally I feel that as "guys" we got no business discussing this. We will never have to make this very personal decision. Yea yea, I know as potential fathers/boyfriends etc etc.. you might have a say-so. But the bottom line for me on this one, is it's a woman's choice, and I say let them debate about it 'till the cows come home and come to a decision. When men start getting pregnant, then your .02 will be worth something.

And that is ALL I'm going to say on this subject, I'm abandoning this thread quickly
Any time some one interrupts the natural order of things such as a fetus coming to fruit is messing with mother nature in a very bad way. They do have the babies and they do have the choice and many times fathers have a vote too. If it was my child I would fight tooth and nail to save his or her life and when ladies give birth to a still born child they name it and give it a birth certificate and a head stone that is just the facts.
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:05 PM   #7
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If I walk up and hit a lady that is with child and she miscarries I go to jail for fratricide but a "Doctor" can kill the child in the womb and that is "Choice" I think that this hits the nail on the head.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252113,00.html
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As per your usual, you don't understand that you cannot force your opinions on to other individuals...

Abortion is a terrible choice some women have to make. You killing the unborn child through an act of violence isn't even close to the same thing.
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:28 PM   #8
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I am not trying to force my opinions on anybody

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As per your usual, you don't understand that you cannot force your opinions on to other individuals...

Abortion is a terrible choice some women have to make. You killing the unborn child through an act of violence isn't even close to the same thing.
I do not have to you keep all my post alive and everybody makes their own mind up and you or me have no say so in that.

The result of a abortion is a dead child and that is not a opinion that is a fact young man. Ever talk to anybody that has been thru that fire ? I am sure it is not something they are proud of or even won't to talk about. Maybe you have been to that fire. Oh your zeal is showing
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:09 PM   #9
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This is a hot topic here so

I have kids and the idea that I could have destroyed one of them does not sit well with me. I have to side with prolife. I know it is a personal choice and a sad one at that. My neighbors son fathered a child and they put it up for adoption and that was very, very hard on both family's too. I am sure the child will be happy about it
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:41 PM   #10
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I do not have to you keep all my post alive and everybody makes their own mind up and you or me have no say so in that.

The result of a abortion is a dead child and that is not a opinion that is a fact young man. Ever talk to anybody that has been thru that fire ? I am sure it is not something they are proud of or even won't to talk about. Maybe you have been to that fire. Oh your zeal is showing
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Abortion is legal and a choice, you striking an individual to the extent that you kill their unborn child is neither legal, nor a choice made by the mother.

Justify your propaganda to yourself anyway you see fit. I already understand you oppose freedom of choice....the very basic ideal upon which our country was founded.
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Old 02-17-2007, 03:40 AM   #11
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Thumbs down Freedom of "Choice" to kill a child

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Abortion is legal and a choice, you striking an individual to the extent that you kill their unborn child is neither legal, nor a choice made by the mother.

Justify your propaganda to yourself anyway you see fit. I already understand you oppose freedom of choice....the very basic ideal upon which our country was founded.
Call it what you will freedom or choice but I still call it what it is a dead child and that is not propaganda that is the end result. Oh yes it is legal but the ten commandments are not now what is wrong with this picture. Right is wrong and wrong is right all under the PC slogan. Just because it is legal or not legal does not make it morally correct. This anti American crap has gone way to far and in the end a correction will come. Don't walk on my freedom of speech.
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Old 02-17-2007, 03:51 AM   #12
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You're the only person I see advocating Anti-American sentiment.

People who support the law are not Socialist. Women who choose abortion are not murders. The Supreme Court does not make law.

You being to simple to understand the difference is not only your own fault, but a rather common characteristic of the zealot....hence separation of church and state.

Congratulations on being part of your perceived problem rather than a part of the solution you seek.
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Old 02-17-2007, 03:59 AM   #13
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Your anit American way is the cancer that is bring us down

The Thrasher strikes again. I am sooooooooooo glad to see this Tenn Bill that will require death certificates for aborted fetuses become "LAW" but I am sure when it is law that will not change the way you think. Kill our childern under the banner of choice
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I have absolutely no problem with the proposed law.

You know it's not unheard of for someone to be pro-choice and not condone abortion at the same time

It's called freedom of choice....as in not trying to force my opinions onto others. A concept zealots like yourself simply can't grasp.
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:18 AM   #15
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You make me laugh when you use the term zealots

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I have absolutely no problem with the proposed law.

You know it's not unheard of for someone to be pro-choice and not condone abortion at the same time

It's called freedom of choice....as in not trying to force my opinions onto others. A concept zealots like yourself simply can't grasp.
I have zeal for what I believe to be moral and correct. You too have zeal for what you believe so what is wrong with that ? You are anybody's dog that wants to hunt with you. Go with the wind young man. If it feels good just do it after all it is your choice and choice is what it is all about to you. Wake up call might just come to late for a man of the world like you.
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