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Old 05-01-2007, 07:38 PM   #61
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:44 PM   #62
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Good question. The answer is simple. God abides by God's laws and satan doesn't. So God had to figure out a way to achieve victory while still keeping his word. While satan is not concerned with keeping his word, much less God's Word. He is a law breaker through and through seeking to defy God.
And again, an all knowing and all powerful being couldn't come up with a better solution than having his only child brutally tortured and executed at the hands of a bunch of filthy apes?
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Not only did I come right out and say how I felt, I clarified the statement, hence the "brief conversation". Sorry , I don't even remember the topic that was under or I'd look for you by this point since you obviously refuse to look for yourself.


Actually Anime would have probably voted the same, but would never have come out and expressed his non Christian views had I not asked him directly. I'll take a confession over turning the other cheek in order to avoid a conflict as a victory if I so choose, just like if he chose to attend church and just listen, you and every other Christian would consider that a victory.


As I've stated before. Only 1/3 of the world is Christian, then people like you start eliminating Mormons, snake handlers (Pentecostals), Amish and the Quakers, then that number gets smaller and smaller. Considerably less than "most of this world", genius.


I agree completely, the difference between you and I is that "god made it that way" without tangible evidence OF a god simply isn't sufficient enough to satisfy my curiosity.

I'm not trying to "disprove" the existence of your god anymore than you try to disprove the existence of Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny.....it's a given
Brain I have found the thread of truth and you young man are still looking and you will know it if you can find it. It is not for everyone and I am OK with your play acting the negative side it has to be and you legion is very large for a very short time so have a good ride friend and it is not the fall it is that very quick stop
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Brain I have found the thread of truth and you young man are still looking and you will know it if you can find it. It is not for everyone and I am OK with your play acting the negative side it has to be and you legion is very large for a very short time so have a good ride friend and it is not the fall it is that very quick stop

Likewise, it's not that you believe, it's that you continually condemn those who do not.
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Likewise, it's not that you believe, it's that you continually condemn those who do not.
Brain I believe there is a difference between condemning and disagreeing. You don't seem to understand the difference between the two.
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And again, an all knowing and all powerful being couldn't come up with a better solution than having his only child brutally tortured and executed at the hands of a bunch of filthy apes?
Not without turning into an outlaw he coundn't (evidently), you are correct. That was the plan. Maybe it took such a plan to trick satan. Who woulda thought......
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Brain I believe there is a difference between condemning and disagreeing. You don't seem to understand the difference between the two.

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Brain I believe there is a difference between condemning and disagreeing. You don't seem to understand the difference between the two.
Good point Ms Belle. The difference is between "contructive critisism" and "b!tching". With the first, the person with a differing opinion also has a new solution in mind. While b!tching is just that - pointing out a problem while providing no solutions. Just pointing out you are wrong and life sucks and there is nothing you can do about it.
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Good point Ms Belle. The difference is between "contructive critisism" and "b!tching". With the first, the person with a differing opinion also has a new solution in mind. While b!tching is just that - pointing out a problem while providing no solutions. Just pointing out you are wrong and life sucks and there is nothing you can do about it.

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[quote=rhertz]Good question. The answer is simple. God abides by God's laws and satan doesn't. So God had to figure out a way to achieve victory while still keeping his word. While satan is not concerned with keeping his word, much less God's Word. He is a law breaker through and through seeking to defy God.

Good info, rhertz. God will never sacrifice character for comfort. It's the learning process that molds the character.
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Good question. The answer is simple. God abides by God's laws and satan doesn't. So God had to figure out a way to achieve victory while still keeping his word. While satan is not concerned with keeping his word, much less God's Word. He is a law breaker through and through seeking to defy God.

Good info, rhertz. God will never sacrifice character for comfort. It's the learning process that molds the character.
What a great couple of post here. Sheba your calm strong voice is a good thing to steady the storm thank you
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Garsh!! I'm truly humbled. Just trying to live out loud.
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Good info, rhertz. God will never sacrifice character for comfort. It's the learning process that molds the character.
Nodding, the big question for me personally is this? Would I do the same as He did? Maybe I would and maybe I wouldn't pass that test of faith by putting true discomfort to the test. I hope I never have to find out, to that extent. Heh, I doubt I would pass that degree of test. But on the otherhand, without being put to the test at some level, how do you know who you really are? Or what you can do?

I do believe this. Raising a family or running a company is uncomfortable at times. Even downright painful. But I do it, and with a smile on my face. Even when I don't feel like it. I don't even know why, which means that it became second nature. This means that something greater than I am has "soaked in" to me, and I am very happy even though I have never worked so hard or been in so much pain before. It seems to me that even "paradise on earth" is a relative thing.
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Nodding, the big question for me personally is this? Would I do the same as He did? Maybe I would and maybe I wouldn't pass that test of faith by putting true discomfort to the test. I hope I never have to find out, to that extent. Heh, I doubt I would pass that degree of test. But on the otherhand, without being put to the test at some level, how do you know who you really are? Or what you can do?

I do believe this. Raising a family or running a company is uncomfortable at times. Even downright painful. But I do it, and with a smile on my face. Even when I don't feel like it. I don't even know why, which means that it became second nature. This means that something greater than I am has "soaked in" to me, and I am very happy even though I have never worked so hard or been in so much pain before. It seems to me that even "paradise on earth" is a relative thing.
Those are powerful words and concepts. Very encouraging to me personally! Here's a quote I like: When the voice and the vision on the inside become more profound, and more clear and loud, than the opinions on the outside, you've mastered your life (Dr. John Demartini) That's living loud, and you've got that!!
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