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Old 05-08-2007, 11:51 AM   #46
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This is because most miles spent on the road are spent on local residential roads on routine trips and not vacations.. That is why they are called "routine". Duh....

I really think this thread has run awry. I don't think anyone is not suggesting taking the precautions to keep our kids safe. If someone does their job 499,000 out of 500,000 times, that is reasonable. If safety if truly the number one concern, then it is best never to leave your house. After all, most car accidents occur outdoors and not inside your home. Even then, there are a few exceptions of people getting hit by a car while sitting in their living room.
Then again some people get hit by a olive sitting in their own home
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:57 AM   #47
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Then again some people get hit by a olive sitting in their own home
I guess the worst thing would to be agoraphobic and get killed by a falling meteorite at home.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:08 PM   #48
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I speed, too. I also order products over the Internet and don't report them to the state so I can pay sales/use tax on them. Sometimes if I am in a hurry I will park in a handicapped spot. I am a CRIMINAL!!!
Yeah, and how many of those directly or even indirectly endanger the safety of your kid again?

Like I said, you line of reasoning is childish at best

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That is not what that means. That means that more accidents happen w/i 5 miles of home. It says nothing about the relative danger of driving near home vs. driving far from home unless you also have statistics about the amount of total driving done in those same distances. If 50% of accidents occur w/i 10 miles of home but 75% of driving is done there, then it is actually safer.
50% is 50% stupid, it doesn't matter where "the majority" of your driving is done. Half of your total wrecks, regardless of it being 1 or 100, are going to occur within that 10 mile area.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:10 PM   #49
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If any of you call child services please record the call. I want to hear how that goes.

"This guy on the Internet said he let his kid ride in his mom's lap for 5 blocks!"

"The SWAT team has been dispatched. He will be brought to justice."
I prefer the scenario where the police wait for you at the pool then cart your ass to jail.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:15 PM   #50
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This is because most miles spent on the road are spent on local residential roads on routine trips and not vacations.. That is why they are called "routine". Duh....
DUH...

You mean like when Einstein is driving home 5 blocks from the pool with his kid sitting in someone's lap?
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I really think this thread has run awry. I don't think anyone is not suggesting taking the precautions to keep our kids safe. If someone does their job 499,000 out of 500,000 times, that is reasonable. If safety if truely the number one concern, then it is best never to leave your house. After all, most car accidents occur outdoors and not inside your home. Even then, there are a few exceptions of people getting hit by a car while sitting in their living room.
Well I guess some of us care a little more about safety when it comes to children than those who we'll simply deem as "careless". What you are describing is a phobia. No one is suggesting to never get in your car again...I'm not even saying buckle YOUR seat belt. I'm saying get off your ass and strap the kids in!
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:31 PM   #51
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>I prefer the scenario where the police wait for you at the pool then cart your ass to jail.

That's about as likely.

>50% is 50% stupid, it doesn't matter where "the majority" of your driving is done. Half of your total wrecks, regardless of it being 1 or 100, are going to occur within that 10 mile area.

I guess you weren't content in convincing us of your inability to read and comprehend the law as it relates to shooting burglars, now you've moved on to convincing us of your inability to read and comprehend statistics.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:50 PM   #52
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That's about as likely.
Well, after a little research It seems you are right. $50.00 for first offense which I think is equally as offensive as you refusing to buckle up your child.

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I guess you weren't content in convincing us of your inability to read and comprehend the law as it relates to shooting burglars, now you've moved on to convincing us of your inability to read and comprehend statistics.
The law is open to interpretation, numbers are not, 50% is 50% even if you only get on an Interstate once in your life, stupid.

and of course, that doesn't excuse you INTENTIONALLY and HABITUALLY endangering the life of your child.....and that's why child services should be notified.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:06 PM   #53
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Why not report me for taking her to the pool? Surely that's more dangerous than driving 5 blocks w/o a car seat.
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And that's my point, every single parent in the universe INTENTIONALLY and HABITUALLY endangers the life of their child. That isn't (and shouldn't be) against the law.

>The law is open to interpretation,

Not the one about shooting someone unlawfully in your home, that one is intentionally unambiguous.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:24 PM   #55
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And that's my point, every single parent in the universe INTENTIONALLY and HABITUALLY endangers the life of their child. That isn't (and shouldn't be) against the law.
Not restraining your child IS against the law, stupid. I even quoted the first fine for you.

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>The law is open to interpretation,

Not the one about shooting someone unlawfully in your home, that one is intentionally unambiguous.
Apparently it is....you've got it wrong.
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:21 PM   #56
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I know it is. I said INTENTIONALLY and HABITUALLY endangers the life of your child is neither illegal nor something to avoid, nor should it be because it's something every single parent does every minute of every day.

>Apparently it is....you've got it wrong.

Please tell me again how I got it wrong. There are few things as satisfying as someone else adamantly insisting they're right when they are completely and utterly wrong.
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:11 PM   #57
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Why not report me for taking her to the pool? Surely that's more dangerous than driving 5 blocks w/o a car seat.
Do you toss her into the pool without a life jacket as you do in a car with no restraint?? Equally irresponsible!
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I ALWAYS strap her into her in her carseat when I throw her into the pool.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:50 AM   #59
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I know it is. I said INTENTIONALLY and HABITUALLY endangers the life of your child is neither illegal nor something to avoid, nor should it be because it's something every single parent does every minute of every day.
Hey stupid, it's illegal. Your intention and frequency are why you're an unfit parent. They don't have anything to do with the law.

BTW, anytime you care to test that little theory, feel free to volunteer your contact information and I'll pass it along to the proper authorities. Maybe someone over there will care about your bull**** excuses, but I doubt it very seriously just like I doubt you're going to confess your crimes to someone with the authority to do something about it.

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Please tell me again how I got it wrong. There are few things as satisfying as someone else adamantly insisting they're right when they are completely and utterly wrong.
I just did, and it's well know that ignorance is bliss. Glad you found it so satisfying, but that doesn't come as a surprise to anyone.
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You're disgusting dude....

I simply cannot fathom someone other than a dope head being so careless about the safety of their own children.

If there was ever a reason to require a license before being allowed to bare/raise children, you are the ****ing poster boy.
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