Legislation Action Pending On Online Sexual Predators

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If passed, the Sexual Predator Forfeiture Act would allow authorities to seize and use computers and other electronic devices as they see fit.

[BrainSmashR]

This is total crap!!!!

I can understand the drug issue because monies said criminal obtained by illegal activity could have been used to buy his house/car/weapons. Even though I know that's a scam too, I can understand the justification they use.

......the same rule doesn't apply to sexual perverts. Child Molesters aren't profiting from their illegal activity and using those illegal funds to, "enhance the business", if you will, like the drug dealer and his fancy spinning rims and chrome plated 9mm.

[AnimeSpirit]

I dunno about that. I saw on a Court TV special that there is actually an underground market for child pornography and recorded media of such dispicable actions taking place and it is apparently as profitable as the illegal drug market.

Unfortunately, it seems that child molesters can financially profit from their crimes.

[joepole]

You can get whatever law you want passed by claiming it's "for the children" or that it helps solve that HUGE problem we have with online predators.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

You three guys better stop before you go blind

see how they run

[Neo]

What did the brown mouse say to the white mouse?????

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

I dunno about that. I saw on a Court TV special that there is actually an underground market for child pornography and recorded media of such dispicable actions taking place and it is apparently as profitable as the illegal drug market.

Unfortunately, it seems that child molesters can financially profit from their crimes.

While both are despicable, trafficking child pornography is considerably different than meeting a minor for a sexual encounter. Just like selling drugs and using drugs are different. Notice smoking pot isn't illegal, possession is, just like meeting a minor for a sexual encounter isn't illegal, the ACT of having sex with a minor is illegal.

In most cases an illegal activity has to be taking place before the perp can be arrested....like the "13 year old girl" agrees to give him some nude photos....if the guy shows up, then he's guilty of attempted trafficking of illegal goods and can be arrested on the spot.

[joepole]

1. You can't smoke marijuana without possessing it, a law against consumption would be superfluous.

2. Regarding soliciting sex from minors

>just like meeting a minor for a sexual encounter isn't illegal, the ACT of having sex with a minor is illegal.

That's just flat-out wrong. Meeting a minor for a sexual encounter is definitely illegal, even if the encounter never takes place and even if the minor isn't really a minor. Just ask Mike Sieve.

LA Revised Statute 14§81.3. Computer-aided solicitation of a minor

A. Computer-aided solicitation of a minor is committed when a person eighteen years of age or older knowingly contacts or communicates, through the use of electronic textual communication, with a person who has not yet attained the age of eighteen or a person reasonably believed to have not yet attained the age of eighteen, for the purpose of or with the intent to persuade, induce, entice, or coerce the person to engage or participate in sexual conduct or a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B), or with the intent to engage or participate in sexual conduct in the presence of the person who has not yet attained the age of eighteen, or person reasonably believed to have not yet attained the age of eighteen.

It's also a Federal crime:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 117

§ 2422. Coercion and enticement

(a) Whoever knowingly persuades, induces, entices, or coerces any individual to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, to engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

[LateNight]

Originally Posted by joepole

A. Computer-aided solicitation of a minor is committed when a person eighteen years of age or older knowingly contacts or communicates, through the use of electronic textual communication, with a person who has not yet attained the age of eighteen or a person reasonably believed to have not yet attained the age of eighteen

that last bit ? does that mean someone who doesn't look 18 but could in fact be 18 ? ??

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by joepole

1. You can't smoke marijuana without possessing it, a law against consumption would be superfluous.

Any pothead can walk up to any cop in America reeking of pot and admit to it's use and cannot be arrested for anything more substantial than public intoxication.

The difference between possessing and smoking is that if you are not caught with drugs on your person or in your vehicle ,then you have essentially "not" committed a drug violation regardless of admission or level of intoxication.

Try again.

2. Regarding soliciting sex from minors

>just like meeting a minor for a sexual encounter isn't illegal, the ACT of having sex with a minor is illegal.

That's just flat-out wrong. Meeting a minor for a sexual encounter is definitely illegal, even if the encounter never takes place and even if the minor isn't really a minor. Just ask Mike Sieve.

LA Revised Statute 14§81.3. Computer-aided solicitation of a minor

A. Computer-aided solicitation of a minor is committed when a person eighteen years of age or older knowingly contacts or communicates, through the use of electronic textual communication, with a person who has not yet attained the age of eighteen or a person reasonably believed to have not yet attained the age of eighteen, for the purpose of or with the intent to persuade, induce, entice, or coerce the person to engage or participate in sexual conduct or a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B), or with the intent to engage or participate in sexual conduct in the presence of the person who has not yet attained the age of eighteen, or person reasonably believed to have not yet attained the age of eighteen.

It's also a Federal crime:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 117

§ 2422. Coercion and enticement

(a) Whoever knowingly persuades, induces, entices, or coerces any individual to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, to engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Well that IS nice to know, but it still doesn't show the perp making a profit from his crime therefore I can't justify "stealing" any of his property