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Old 01-03-2008, 03:19 PM   #16
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They came out with a HD Tivo (~$1,000) about two years ago and a cheaper ($300) one the middle of last year. There was a 20-hour Hughes-built HD DirecTV Tivo unit available a few years ago, that had scads of hardware problems and isn't offered anymore. DirecTV bought a DVR company themselves so they no longer work with Tivo.

Right now I have the "Tivo HD" which is a two-tuner CableCard model. I would have gladly paid extra to stay with DirecTV but they offered no product that satisfied my needs which were: two tuners, HD, and Tivo
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They came out with a HD Tivo (~$1,000) about two years ago and a cheaper ($300) one the middle of last year. There was a 20-hour Hughes-built HD DirecTV Tivo unit available a few years ago, that had scads of hardware problems and isn't offered anymore. DirecTV bought a DVR company themselves so they no longer work with Tivo.

Right now I have the "Tivo HD" which is a two-tuner CableCard model. I would have gladly paid extra to stay with DirecTV but they offered no product that satisfied my needs which were: two tuners, HD, and Tivo
Was it the lack of two tuners or the lack of HD or the lack of Tivo that drove you off ? if it was the lack of Tivo.. is the generic DVR offered really that bad ?? I've never seen it. I know I'm so very used to my TIVO.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:31 PM   #18
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I could get any of the two I wanted, but I wanted all three. If you're used to a well-thought-out interface like Tivo then the off-brand DVRs will drive you insane.
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I could get any of the two I wanted, but I wanted all three. If you're used to a well-thought-out interface like Tivo then the off-brand DVRs will drive you insane.
I have never had a Tivo, therefore I do not know what I am missing, however the HD Directv DVR is much better than the Dish Network model I had before. First off, the hard drive was way more quiet. Second, it is larger. Third, it works for one year without crashing... As for features, I like what I have. I can search for upcoming viewings of a movie in case I miss something. It has never crashed in 1 year. But no it does not use fuzzy logic or psychic powers to determine what to record and what not to. I don't want that anyway. I want to pick and choose. Exactly what feature are you missing there Joe? New models and software come out all the time. Does TIVO have any software patents or something special? LOL, I figured TIVO is "open source" because of it's roots in Linux....
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:41 PM   #20
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Why I needed a Tivo instead of DirecTV's DVR:

1. Automatic d/l of video podcasts
2. Amazon Unbox
3. I can schedule shows from my PC at work
3. Son I will be able to burn shows to DVD and/or watch on my PC while the wife watched something else in the den
4. It has the greatest, most ergonomic remote in consumer electronics history
5. Everything just works perfectly and exactly the way you want and expect
6. Multi-room viewing
7. A season pass feature that actually works and doesn't miss shows
8. Automatic recording of suggestions based on ratings I've given it. It actually picks stuff I like
9. My wife can understand/use it
10. I'm spoiled
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:57 PM   #21
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Can the DTV DVR skip commercials (I undersatnd TiVo did-does)? My TimeWarner DVR does not have a skip feature.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:03 AM   #22
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Tivo doesn't do it automatically, it has a FFWD feature that actually jumps back a few seconds so after you hit play again so it's super-easy to hit exactly where you want.
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Why I needed a Tivo instead of DirecTV's DVR:

1. Automatic d/l of video podcasts
2. Amazon Unbox
3. I can schedule shows from my PC at work
3. Son I will be able to burn shows to DVD and/or watch on my PC while the wife watched something else in the den
4. It has the greatest, most ergonomic remote in consumer electronics history
5. Everything just works perfectly and exactly the way you want and expect
6. Multi-room viewing
7. A season pass feature that actually works and doesn't miss shows
8. Automatic recording of suggestions based on ratings I've given it. It actually picks stuff I like
9. My wife can understand/use it
10. I'm spoiled
A typical joe response:
1. you got me here
2. who cares
3. I do that now.
4. right....
5. right....
6. who cares
7. Mine has never missed a show.
8. I dont want that-
9. right.....
10. right....
DirecTv RULES!!! I should be thier spokesman
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A typical joe response:
1. you got me here
2. who cares
3. I do that now.
4. right....
5. right....
6. who cares
7. Mine has never missed a show.
8. I dont want that-
9. right.....
10. right....
DirecTv RULES!!! I should be thier spokesman
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:32 AM   #25
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Why I needed a Tivo instead of DirecTV's DVR:

1. Automatic d/l of video podcasts
2. Amazon Unbox
3. I can schedule shows from my PC at work
3. Son I will be able to burn shows to DVD and/or watch on my PC while the wife watched something else in the den
4. It has the greatest, most ergonomic remote in consumer electronics history
5. Everything just works perfectly and exactly the way you want and expect
6. Multi-room viewing
7. A season pass feature that actually works and doesn't miss shows
8. Automatic recording of suggestions based on ratings I've given it. It actually picks stuff I like
9. My wife can understand/use it
10. I'm spoiled
I've used nothing but TIVO.. I've seen other DVR systems only briefly.. as I watched.. I was reminded of having to watch a user on a Windows system.

If I had to switch from Tivo.. I probably would be @#$@%
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:38 PM   #26
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We have DISH and have never had a problem until now. I say screw KTBS and it's owner George Sirven. He is demanding a 300% increase from DISH. Puh lease...who in the snot of us gets that kind of pay raise? I would almost feel sorry for the man if I didn't have previous knowledge of what a horses behind he is.

And let me add I'd like to shove my red stiletto up his arse if I have to miss the new episode of Grey's Anatomy!!!!!!!
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We have DISH and have never had a problem until now. I say screw KTBS and it's owner George Sirven. He is demanding a 300% increase from DISH. Puh lease...who in the snot of us gets that kind of pay raise?
George doesn't own KTBS, the Wray family does. George just runs it. He has done a great job over the years IMHO, at least up until recently... But I can't blame him for being under the kind of pressure that would require 300% increase...That is just a sign of the times is all. Not his fault for the most part.
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We have dishnetwork and one of the their ill performing DVRs. We are watching HD over the air broadcasts of KTBS. They have most of the programs my wife likes to watch. I would like to know who is bringing what to the table and who is holding out.

Direct TV tried to dry hump me on an install once-so it will be a bitter pill to swallow if I have to use them. I also have a grudge against cable TV, but it's been so damn long that I can't remember what they did. Doesn't stop me from using their internet services. Besides, the picture sucked. At least it did when I lived in South Highlands. Now that I'm in a new area with new cable, maybe I'll have to give them another audition.

I might even try one of those fancy Tivo units. Do I get 10% off if I say Joepole sent me?
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George doesn't own KTBS, the Wray family does. George just runs it. He has done a great job over the years IMHO, at least up until recently... But I can't blame him for being under the kind of pressure that would require 300% increase...That is just a sign of the times is all. Not his fault for the most part.
Obviously you've never worked for this man or the stories about him. You'd feel quite differently if you did. He is an a$$. And yes it is HIS fault for requesting the increase. Dish did not request it. The signal is already broadcast for free so why not pass along the signal at a reasonable rate. I don't blame the station for wanting to be paid something but seriously the man has to be reasonable. He has never been described using that adjective.
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We have DISH and have never had a problem until now. I say screw KTBS and it's owner George Sirven. He is demanding a 300% increase from DISH. Puh lease...who in the snot of us gets that kind of pay raise? I would almost feel sorry for the man if I didn't have previous knowledge of what a horses behind he is.

And let me add I'd like to shove my red stiletto up his arse if I have to miss the new episode of Grey's Anatomy!!!!!!!
I feel ya on the shoving of the stiletto for the new Grey's. I have waited WEEKS to see it. UGH!!!!
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