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Old 07-24-2007, 09:00 AM   #1
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Minimum Wages Goes Up Today

http://money.cnn.com/2007/07/23/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

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Minimum wage boost first in 10 years
Wage will rise in three steps, from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour, but advocates and critics still disagree on the benefits to low-wage workers
The first minimum wage increase in 10 years takes effect Tuesday, to $5.85 from $5.15 an hour, with two more steps over the next two years taking base pay for millions of workers to $7.25.
You know this is good, but I wonder how this helps your restaurant workers that don't even make minimum wage to start with. Your basic restaurant worker only makes $2.13 an hour because they recieve tips. Just think at that rate of pay your check would be what $80 before taxes. I don't think they should count tips because a tip is like a reward for good service from a worker.How many people get a bad waiter or waitress and decide they don't deserve a good tip or they leave them nothing. So does this mean these workers are still going to be below poverty level.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:20 AM   #2
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>You know this is good,

No, this is bad. Everybody else's wages just went down.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:34 AM   #3
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It is always bad when government interferes with market forces. Anytime the government manipulates market forces, it is a slap in the face of capitalism and a vote for, well, something else.

In case nobody noticed, the Al-Qaeda attacks were attacks on Western capitalism. They bombed the world TRADE center, the center of capitalism in the western world. I'm sick and tired of two faced politicians comforting the enemy, and/or opposing capitalism and free enterprise which is what made this country great to begin with. Many Americans died so that I would not have a socialistic governments telling me what I must pay people or else go to jail, (if I am allowed to be in business to begin with)
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The WTC was not the center of capitalism in the western world. The NY and London Stock Exchanges (and, to a lesser extent the US Federal Reserve Bank) were/are.
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The WTC was not the center of capitalism in the western world. The NY and London Stock Exchanges (and, to a lesser extent the US Federal Reserve Bank) were/are.
OK, that is probably true, but you get my point. It was not the WSC (World Socialism Center) or the WRC (World Religion Center) that they attacked.
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I am against this minimum wage increase. With that said I guess all the people that work at SBLive will be getting a raise
Hey rherz I am so glad to see you put your foot down so hard on something so political
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It is always bad when government interferes with market forces. Anytime the government manipulates market forces, it is a slap in the face of capitalism and a vote for, well, something else.

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I would like to know if there is anyone out there that is not an employer that is against the minimum wage raise.
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I would like to know if there is anyone out there that is not an employer that is against the minimum wage raise.
Piemaker, my company failed to make a profit this month. I am not on the payroll and get paid only when I make money. This month, I worked for free! Or worse, I actually paid for the priviledge to do my job this month. Go figure.....

The only legal way to earn less than minimum wage is to work for oneself. I earned less than minimum wage this month. Where's my government mandated check? (But I'm not expecting one on any moral basis whatsoever)

Another reason minimum wage is a bad idea is that it excluded employers! (the one who should probably be protected the most since we hire others!)
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>You know no one can talk to you. You are rude, sarcastic and annoying to all of us. So blow it out your BUTT.

In case anyone ever wants to know what the logical fallacy known as "ad hominem" looks like, here's a textbook example. When faced with questions the opponent either doesn't understand or doesn't want to answer, the opponent attacks the person that asked the question instead of answering the actual question.
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