The subtle transformation into fascist America.

[Santabot]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

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Very interesting, many key and valid points, something I've suspected for a while now, maybe some of you will agree.

[purpahurl]

These ten points sound exactly like what the liberals are trying to do.

[rhertz]

I see things drifting more towards a subtle transformation into socialist America with increasing entitlements. In other words, we are becoming more like Canada each day. I still see the US as a place where anyone can succeed with hard work and integrity. But success is not free or guaranteed to anyone. If I'm not willing to work or earn a degree and find myself as a lower class citizen, who's fault is that? Just because someone chooses to be in a lower class, doesn't mean they live in a fascist government. There is only so much government can do to educate and motivate someone to succeed.

[BrainSmashR]

I just love when liberals reference foreign sources when describing our country. It makes it so much easier to identify the main problem behind their misunderstandings and lack of knowledge.

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

I just love when liberals reference foreign sources when describing our country. It makes it so much easier to identify the main problem behind their misunderstandings and lack of knowledge.

I'm not a liberal, far from it.

The Guardian is also a well-publicized and respected source of information, even for many Americans who enjoy the luxury of seeing our own country from an outside perspective. Britain is not exempt from witnessing the bull**** that goes on in our country; but the sad thing is, most of us are.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Santabot

I'm not a liberal, far from it.

The Guardian is also a well-publicized and respected source of information, even for many Americans who enjoy the luxury of seeing our own country from an outside perspective. Britain is not exempt from witnessing the bull**** that goes on in our country; but the sad thing is, most of us are.

So is the New York Times....taht doesn't mean it isn't a biased piece of crap too.

Hey kid, did it ever occur to you that what you consider "bull****" , is what the voting majorty of the country want?

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by rhertz

I see things drifting more towards a subtle transformation into socialist America with increasing entitlements. In other words, we are becoming more like Canada each day. I still see the US as a place where anyone can succeed with hard work and integrity. But success is not free or guaranteed to anyone. If I'm not willing to work or earn a degree and find myself as a lower class citizen, who's fault is that? Just because someone chooses to be in a lower class, doesn't mean they live in a fascist government. There is only so much government can do to educate and motivate someone to succeed.

Agreed, and I've seen it the same in seeing our country evolve into a more socialist democracy like Canada, but the difference is our government still claims we're entirely free, so the people who are reasonably affected by mass media still truly believe they're free, even though they live in white socialist America, rename the republican party to the Nazi party and see how many people disagree, but if you look at the similarities in all aspects, there's almost no difference in the two.

Although I disagree on the part of education, a lot of people are unable to get free education, whereas Canadians are all able to go to university, despite their economic class. Here, we just are willing to pay welfare checks and stick people into holes and not hear from them again, as long as they don't shoot at us and commit heinous crimes, which the act of secluding them just makes it a necessity to look towards theft as a legitimate source of living.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by Santabot

even though they live in white socialist America

You may have had a point once upon a time 50+ years ago. But today socialism is color blind in America.

Originally Posted by Santabot

Although I disagree on the part of education, a lot of people are unable to get free education, whereas Canadians are all able to go to university, despite their economic class. Here, we just are willing to pay welfare checks and stick people into holes and not hear from them again, as long as they don't shoot at us and commit heinous crimes, which the act of secluding them just makes it a necessity to look towards theft as a legitimate source of living.

Your joking right? Do you know how many government programs there are for educating and training the young and poor? The only thing we do not do is put a gun to everyone's head and tell them what their job will be like in the old Soviet Union. In America we can lead someone to water, but we cannot make them drink.

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Your joking right? Do you know how many government programs there are for educating and training the young and poor? The only thing we do not do is put a gun to everyone's head and tell them what their job will be like in the old Soviet Union. In America we can lead someone to water, but we cannot make them drink.

Sure, join the military and die for your education.