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Old 05-01-2007, 06:40 PM   #16
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Yes...I'm sure "Penn & Teller" could enlighten me about a great many things. Nevertheless, your obvious contempt for "fat Americans", coupled with your zeal for porous national borders disturbs me.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:43 PM   #17
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Al he prefers pure communism over free enterprise ? Could we call this Anti American ? Well I like your post as always and people that do not like fat American need to haul their ass on out
Was it Anti-American to believe that we should open trade relations with China? Sure, at the time, but that's been done away with and is now an acceptable action.

Progressivism in America needs to realize there will at least be attempts from all angles of every situation by somebody, you can't have a true workable system if there are no polar or intermediate opposites, meaning, I can be patriotic and support other forms of government, but this does not mean my thoughts are away from America, it's hopeful that America will change itself over time, and I will be the one voting (registered today, in fact) soon for these type of changes. Regardless of my effect on the poor voting system we have (which is nil), I will still be representing those views I support, and that a lot of people are afraid of because they would rather fit into mainstream society or are not educated about them enough to support other ideas.

I think you're a bit too hyped up because you're now comfy in your seat of reign as the dominant religion in America. There was once a time where Christians were openly slain in the streets, do the same to me, but look at how much small views can be turned into revolutionary reality.
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:00 PM   #19
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:10 PM   #20
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In fact, bein an indian opens up all sorts of benefits and entitlements NOT available to anyone else, and rightly so.
Actually it's racial discrimination to offer "benefits and entitlements" based on race and that's not "right" under any circumstances.

Leftists rely primarily on the vote of the poor and minorities....which group specifically do you think this "vote buying scheme" is targeting?
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:13 PM   #21
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Actually it's racial discrimination to offer "benefits and entitlements" based on race and that's not "right" under any circumstances.

Leftists rely primarily on the vote of the poor and minorities....which group specifically do you think this "vote buying scheme" is targeting?
the same technique republicans use to get the "bible vote" and have ruled over the country recently.

Check out: http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/facu...n/atheism.html

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Old 05-01-2007, 07:17 PM   #22
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There's only a handful of these "minutemen", you should watch Penn & Teller's Bull****! series on Showtime (most episodes found on Google Video) about immigration.

It took 200+ years for natives to get their rightful spot here, but still, with all the trauma we caused them, their grandchildren better be getting some monetary benefits, even if it's the minimal we reserve for them.
Actually the native Americans had every opportunity to acclimate themselves to the America way. The chose to keep moving west and preserving their own inferior way of life until there wasn't any farther west to go. That's why you don't hear about major conflicts with the Indians until more than a century after the arrival of white man in the new world.


Now, as far as the monetary benefits "they better be getting"....Exactly how much of that lump sum should fall on YOU, the individual taxpayer, for a "crime" that happened more than 100 years before you were born?
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the same technique republicans use to get the "bible vote" and have ruled over the country recently.

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Religion is a choice, skin color and racial heritage are not.
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:21 PM   #24
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Actually the native Americans had every opportunity to acclimate themselves to the America way. The chose to keep moving west and preserving their own inferior way of life until there wasn't any farther west to go. That's why you don't hear about major conflicts with the Indians until more than a century after the arrival of white man in the new world.


Now, as far as the monetary benefits "they better be getting"....Exactly how much of that lump sum should fall on YOU, the individual taxpayer, for a "crime" that happened more than 100 years before you were born?
I know, again, I didn't use sarcasm tags.. I'm used to posting in areas with high volumes of sarcasm, I think that's a main thing that gets people to view me differently, I'm sarcastic or not saying what people think I am probably 50% of the time.

I don't believe in any of that crap, I agree with your post before that. Crime should be punished at the scene and not after. Those who choose to commit crimes (including myself and everyone else in America) do so because of either accident or the knowledge that they know law enforcement isn't accurate enough to apprehend everyone that breaks the law. There is such a low chance of getting caught doing certain activities, even lower if you're familiar with all of the laws regarding the act, and still lower if you know how to further elude police and government presence. It's an ongoing came of cat and mouse..
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Religion is a choice, skin color and racial heritage are not.
I know, I was stating the fact that these major political parties seek specific votes based on demographics. As the incline of religion peaked in America, those "bible voters" were able to vote in more republicans, beforehand it was those minorities with new voting powers utilizing it to bring Democrats into power. I haven't disagreed with you, haha.
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I have been reading your post and am not impressed. One how could you register to vote if you are only 17. Two, you talk about Christians being slain in the streets,{not in this country}. Three, until you grow up join the military and defend America then you don't care what other countries do here. Just think you can't drink, smoke or even gamble, but you got the gift of gab.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:18 PM   #27
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I have been reading your post and am not impressed. One how could you register to vote if you are only 17. Two, you talk about Christians being slain in the streets,{not in this country}. Three, until you grow up join the military and defend America then you don't care what other countries do here. Just think you can't drink, smoke or even gamble, but you got the gift of gab.
You can register to vote at 17, moron. It's for the upcoming 2008 election, and I will be 18 long before that occurs. TheNarrator can vouch my doing so.

Where did I say Christians were slain in America?

I have to join the military to care for my safety and well-being? Where are you getting this from?

At 17 you can smoke, just can't buy anything. I can/do all of those things and more, does it mean I "can't" do it if I already do? Have you ever gone over the speed limit? YOU CAN'T!

Anti-American fascist. You break the law, too!

Cut the bs man, everybody breaks the law intentionally because white lies are null in Christianity and with the government; unless they want to prosecute you for something else and they just pull out all the small guns they can.
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Let me clear up some misconceptions concerning Native Americans.

I happen to be one. I don't live on a reservation, I am not enrolled with the tribe, I recieve NO bennies of any kind. In my entire life, I have gambled away 20 bucks at a casino. I don't even waste time or cash on scratch offs, go figure. Oh, and...I don't eat cinnamin rolls. I am not alone. Many live just as I do. NO NATIVE AMERICAN IS TRAPPED ON A RESERVATION. Quite the opposite. It's increasingly difficult for tribes to keep theirm members on the reservation.

That bull**** Brain spilled out: Actually the native Americans had every opportunity to acclimate themselves to the America way. The chose to keep moving west and preserving their own inferior way of life until there wasn't any farther west to go. That's why you don't hear about major conflicts with the Indians until more than a century after the arrival of white man in the new world.


Now, as far as the monetary benefits "they better be getting"....Exactly how much of that lump sum should fall on YOU, the individual taxpayer, for a "crime" that happened more than 100 years before you were born?
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You realy ARE a fool. Many DID acclimate. They even intermarried with the settlers. Most of the ones who were "moving west" already did so every year. It's called NOMADIC you idiot. Their "inferior way of life" as you call it, was peaceful and respectful. They took care of their own, and they still do. If your fool white ass wants to belly up to the bar and drink their liquer, bet all your money in their slot machines, thats YOUR problem, but what they do with it certainly doesnt become your problem. Those monies are used to TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

I sat in a restaurant one day and watched a bus of American Indians get out, and enter the restaraunt. It was one of those buffett places. They lined up in such an interesting way. Elderly first, with young men standing beside them. Then children, then women. The young men assisted their elderly throughout their meals. The women assisted the children while they themselves ate. When did the young men eat? Not until the elderly were done.

Yah. Those barbarians!
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You know I was always told it takes a moron to know a moron. Also you may not have said it was America where the Christians were being slain. But if it is in another country just what do you think you can do about it. Or are you a citizen of that country too. As far as the military goes let another 911 happen and see if you think it is alright for illegals to keep coming. You may smoke, drink or whatever you do and more!!!!! but to have to depend on someone else to get it for you is not good when they are the ones that could pay the price if caught. Not I'm not Anti-American!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I support my country. So stop your bull**** until you grow a little more.
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One more thing I forgot to mention. None of us give a flying poop anymore that other nations came and took our land. We've pretty much gotten over that one.
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