Is Christianity In Trouble? - Page 11

LateNight · 03-14-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

I understand your position there and situations like that are why I said "much of the time" and not "always." Cases like that are, indeed, different than common suicide. However, they also carry a sense of hopelessness with them as well. If you had such an illness as you describe, would you not feel hopeless this way?

I suppose you could feel hopeless.. or on the other hand, you could feel empowered, by choosing your own time and place ??

I'm not much on "Suicide", but lying on your death bed, for me , is a different set of circumstances.

BrainSmashR · 03-14-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

"The truth"? I can see the "truth" just fine. The "truth" is that not only are you blind, youre willfully stupid. Thats no way to go thru life, boy. Creation itself is proof of God's existence.

Evolution is proof that "creation" is a lie.

Get used to it, boy.

Al Swearengen · 03-14-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Evolution is proof that "creation" is a lie.

Get used to it, boy.

Evolution and creation are NOT mutually exclusive, boy.

BrainSmashR · 03-14-2007, 07:54 PM

Who said they were exclusive, geritol.....after 2007 years one would expect you to have perfected the lie....but it's still just a lie.

Al Swearengen · 03-14-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Who said they were exclusive, geritol.....after 2007 years one would expect you to have perfected the lie....but it's still a lie.

"A lie"? Says who? You? The lapsed catholic?

Isaac-Saxxon · 03-14-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

I already told you what I believe. It's called science, shut-up and pay attention if you want to have a discussion so I don't have to waste time and resources repeating myself for the slow kids among us.

As for the ACLU, I believe in seperation of church and State, but that certainly doesn't make me a fan of the ACLU. Of course, I fail to see why you even asked the question since it's only a matter of time before you incorporate them into the every growing lie. Heck, it's even been rumored that I hate fictional beings now....

You show how stupid you are with your ass hole comments about science. You are placing you chip on the science only line you do have some of it because science proves the Bible is the real deal. Maybe you have watched to much anime and the dark underworld they live in. Maybe just a chemical imbalance that you can not help. Ever see a doctor about that

Isaac

Isaac-Saxxon · 03-14-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

I already told you what I believe. It's called science, shut-up and pay attention if you want to have a discussion so I don't have to waste time and resources repeating myself for the slow kids among us.

As for the ACLU, I believe in seperation of church and State, but that certainly doesn't make me a fan of the ACLU. Of course, I fail to see why you even asked the question since it's only a matter of time before you incorporate them into the every growing lie. Heck, it's even been rumored that I hate fictional beings now....

You show how stupid you are with your ass hole comments about science. You are placing you chip on the science only line you do have some of it because science proves the Bible is the real deal. Maybe you have watched to much anime and the dark underworld they live in. Maybe just a chemical imbalance that you can not help. Ever see a doctor about that

Isaac

Hey Texasbelle check your email

Al Swearengen · 03-14-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

"A lie"? Says who? You? The lapsed catholic?

Let me amend that to read "lapsed catholic murder suspect".

LateNight · 03-14-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle

On September 22, 2006 I lost my mom to suicide. I was raised by a Christian mother, a strong woman, who taught me everything. She raised me to be a strong person, think for myself, taught me life skills, how to be a good mother, etc. I never, ever once in all of my 39 years ever considered my mother to be a weak person or a coward. She never walked away from anything. However, there was a point and I will now never know what it was when everything changed. She changed and for why we will never know. I can only guess. Maybe it was the surgery she had four months prior to the suicide that she couldn't seem to recover from, maybe it was some unknown effect of anesthesia on her brain that sent her into a depression,or what?

Texasbelle, sorry for your loss. have lost my share of family members as well.
you mentioned a recent surgery your mother had that may have introduced these 'thoughts'. I can only say, that my own mother has been through a couple of very intense surgeries. And some of those did take some time to get over. And I do remember my mother being quite down and out about it. The surgery and the time in intensive care, and amounts of pain medicine, certainly took it's toll. Very glad to say she is doing fine at this time. I do remember it being some very 'dark' times however.

BrainSmashR · 03-14-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

"A lie"? Says who? You? The lapsed catholic?

The overwhelming LACK of evidence in existence to support your opinion.

BrainSmashR · 03-14-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

You show how stupid you are with your ass hole comments about science. You are placing you chip on the science only line you do have some of it because science proves the Bible is the real deal. Maybe you have watched to much anime and the dark underworld they live in. Maybe just a chemical imbalance that you can not help. Ever see a doctor about that

Isaac

Science has disproven EVERY miracle in the bible MULTIPLE times. Your denial of that fact does little more than solidify your position as a wacko.

LateNight · 03-14-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

it means I'm not a gullible little twit like you.

You know what. Someone new joins SBLive and not one day later, Brain is already calling them names.

Just curious BrainSmashR. From what I've read, I believe you said you were a confirmed catholic or something to that affect. Should this leave us to believe, that at some point, you DID BELIEVE ?

And if so, at one point did you Stop believing or lose ALL faith ?

AnimeSpirit · 03-14-2007, 08:12 PM

Maybe I shouldn't step into the spotlight with this kind of position, but here goes.

If I'm understanding him right, Brain has willfully admitted that his belief system is based on physical science only, which is a position that many people share the world over, though not by myself. There is no shortage of people right here in America who will say, "Show me God and then I'll believe." Not all such people are as adamant in convincing others the same as Brain here. However, we cannot judge him by his faith as this is where his heart leads him. His faith is different, but not necessarily evil.

As for the rest of us, many are religious by family, choice, and/or tradition. This is our faith and our choice. Faith is about believing what you want to believe, what you need to believe, and believing what is in your heart. He who doesn't follow his heart is the one who is truly lost.

This topic has, by far, run its course. The mud-slinging and religious flaming has gone quite far enough. We are all entitled to our opinions and we have our rights to express them. If you trully cannot stand to read the opinions of other members, then place them on your ignore list. This is far more respectable than replying to them to tear them down.

Texasbelle · 03-14-2007, 08:14 PM

Brainsmashr, I sincerely have a question for you.

What do you read that has given you these ideas? What reference material do you lean on such much for your beliefs? Why are you so "mean" to people in your responses? Does that make you feel good?

BrainSmashR · 03-14-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LateNight

You know what. Someone new joins SBLive and not one day later, Brain is already calling them names.

Just curious BrainSmashR. From what I've read, I believe you said you were a confirmed catholic or something to that affect. Should this leave us to believe, that at some point, you DID BELIEVE ?

And if so, at one point did you Stop believing or lose ALL faith ?

Ahhh yes, but it typical Christian fashion, her comments towards ME were perfectly acceptable, right?

Try to get this simple concept through your heads, people. Becoming confirmed is a process, belief is not a requirement. Just like getting a PhD earns one the title of Dr. That doesn't mean they can write you that oooooh so needed prescription of Xanax, Zoloft, Ritilen, or whatever else it is that keeps you pro-suicide people from pulling the plug everyday...

03-14-2007, 08:14 PM	#164
Texasbelle SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the woods Posts: 1,819 Rep Power: 265	Brainsmashr, I sincerely have a question for you. What do you read that has given you these ideas? What reference material do you lean on such much for your beliefs? Why are you so "mean" to people in your responses? Does that make you feel good? __________________ One shoe can change your life! Cinderella

03-14-2007, 07:54 PM	#154
BrainSmashR Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Natchitoches Age: 53 Posts: 1,090 Rep Power: 0	Who said they were exclusive, geritol.....after 2007 years one would expect you to have perfected the lie....but it's still just a lie.

03-14-2007, 08:12 PM	#163
AnimeSpirit SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nowhere Age: 41 Posts: 1,659 Rep Power: 261	Maybe I shouldn't step into the spotlight with this kind of position, but here goes. If I'm understanding him right, Brain has willfully admitted that his belief system is based on physical science only, which is a position that many people share the world over, though not by myself. There is no shortage of people right here in America who will say, "Show me God and then I'll believe." Not all such people are as adamant in convincing others the same as Brain here. However, we cannot judge him by his faith as this is where his heart leads him. His faith is different, but not necessarily evil. As for the rest of us, many are religious by family, choice, and/or tradition. This is our faith and our choice. Faith is about believing what you want to believe, what you need to believe, and believing what is in your heart. He who doesn't follow his heart is the one who is truly lost. This topic has, by far, run its course. The mud-slinging and religious flaming has gone quite far enough. We are all entitled to our opinions and we have our rights to express them. If you trully cannot stand to read the opinions of other members, then place them on your ignore list. This is far more respectable than replying to them to tear them down.

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