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Old 07-19-2007, 11:25 AM   #1
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Ron Paul ????

Against the war in Iraq

Voted against the Patriot Act of 2001 & 2005

Strongly supported by Liberal Democrats after 9/11 due to his viwes on the Iraq war (Austin Chronicle - Liberal weekly newspaper) has a favorable view of Paul by praising him for his strong, principaled opposition to the Patriot Act and the Iraq war.

He is one of only two congressmen who voted against the Rothman-Kirk Resolution which calls on UN to charge Iranian President Mahmond Ahmadinejad with violating the genocide convention and UN charter.

Wants to re-open the 9/11 investigation.

Advocates a "Moral Statement" rather than intervention in humanitarian missions such as Darfur or the Rwandan Genocide.

Endorses Defederalization of the health care system.

Was the only dissenting vote against giving Pope John Paul II, Rosa Parks and Mother Tersa the Congressional Gold Medal.

Critized giving Tony Blair a Gold Medal of Honor - Texas Monthly Awarded him the "Bum Steer" award for voting against a congressional honor for cartoonist Charles Schulz.

Lone member out of 415 voting to oppose a House measure to create a National Archives exhibit on Slavery and Reconstruction as an unauthorized use of taxpayer money.

Opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004 - proposed amendment to the US Constitution to define marriage in the United States as a union of one man and one woman.

This man is all over the map with his political views and voting record - why would you vote for him as the next President of the United States??????
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:54 PM   #2
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Austin Chronicle - Liberal weekly newspaper) has a favorable view of Paul by praising him for his strong, principaled opposition to the Patriot Act and the Iraq war.
This alone would make me question him. This is why in my other post I said that I did not agree with with everything he said. We will know who the front runners are by Jan 08 then I will look even closer at who is running.
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:10 PM   #3
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hmmm, I'm almost conservative enough to like this guy Ron Paul!
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You can lead a horse to water, as they say. I just feel like, if he doesnt get elected, then everyone who votes against him deserves whatever the hell they get. Ya deserve big government, the abolishment of the Second Amendment, the income tax and the IRS in general, weak porous borders, the non-producing service economy, unfair/unfree foreign trade, meddling in other nation's affairs at enormous financial expense and loss of life, Mexico's poor livin here, the North American Union and everything thats wrong with America that Paul wants to fix, so you just go right on ahead and make that bed, then you sleep in it and enjoy the bed-wettin and the snoorin and nocturnal fartin cuz thats damn well what ya wanted! Trouble is, the rest of us have to sleep in that bed with ya.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:29 PM   #5
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Wanting to fix something and being able to are two completely different things. Hilary Clinton wanted to fix healthcare.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:35 PM   #6
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No schit, Joe? Obviously the man cant do it all alone. He needs the congress and the American public behind him to effect these changes.

Oh, and I just thought of something else ya deserve...you deserve to be scammed and lied to. Over and over again. All the damn time...about everything. You deserve government beholden to special interest and big business. You deserve intrusive government, the kind that regulates every facet of your personal lives. You deserve to get effed in the A without the benefit of KY or even a reach-around by the goverment that YOU demanded.

And then...we all know what happens next. Thats right, you'll all sit around whining about how sore your fat asses are and beggin the corrupt self-servin incompetent government that YOU chose, that YOU elected, to provide you with some soothing ointment from the socialized medical system. Especially Joe and the newbie, who'll probably be crying the loudest about "ow my ass hurts, where's my free government subsidized inflatable donut, my free Preperation H, and my free Depends diapers cuz I am now anally incontinent from all the reamings Uncle Sam gave me?" And guess what Joe? There wont BE any of those freebies for your sore ass cuz the healthcare system'll be bankrupt! But you'll be there at the clinic regardless, asking the illegal alien behind the counter in your best broken high-school spanish for crackcream and she'll be sayin in her best broken english "I'm so sorry, Senor Hole, scuse me, Pole, but we just gave the last one to Senor Vix. Come back manana!" And that'll be a sad day indeed for America, wont it Joe?
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:40 PM   #7
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Sounds to me,Al, that your more than a little confused. All the stuff your ranting about is a part of the Liberal agenda, I thought we were talking about Ron Paul? How effective would he be? If Socialized Health care is your concern, complain to the Libs- it's not MY agenda. You seem pretty excited, Is your mind made up about paul? maybe you should give it some time-
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Thats right, Pilgrim. If anything, its you thats confused. Who the hell do you think Obama and Hitlery and Edwards are? They are liberals. Just what the hell kind of agenda do ya think they have? Yes, we're talking about Ron Paul, and if you'd read ANYTHING about the man, you'd know that he is against all of those things I was on a "rant" about.
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