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Old 01-17-2007, 04:22 PM   #1
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School teacher gets education

A United States Marine was attending some college courses
between assignments. He had completed missions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist and a member
of the ACLU.
One day the professor shocked the class when he came in. He
looked to the ceiling and flatly stated, "God, if you are real, then I
want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15
minutes." The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten
minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am God. I'm still
waiting." It got down to the last couple of minutes when the Marine got
out of his Chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him;
knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold.
The Marine went back to his seat and sat there, silently. The
other students were shocked and stunned and sat there looking on in
silence. The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at
the Marine and asked, "What the hell is the matter with you? Why did you
do that?" The Marine calmly replied, "God was too busy today protecting
America's soldiers who are protecting your right to say stupid **** and
act like an *******. So, He sent me."
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:17 PM   #2
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A United States Marine was attending some college courses
between assignments. He had completed missions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist and a member
of the ACLU.
One day the professor shocked the class when he came in. He
looked to the ceiling and flatly stated, "God, if you are real, then I
want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15
minutes." The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten
minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am God. I'm still
waiting." It got down to the last couple of minutes when the Marine got
out of his Chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him;
knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold.
The Marine went back to his seat and sat there, silently. The
other students were shocked and stunned and sat there looking on in
silence. The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at
the Marine and asked, "What the hell is the matter with you? Why did you
do that?" The Marine calmly replied, "God was too busy today protecting
America's soldiers who are protecting your right to say stupid **** and
act like an *******. So, He sent me."
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Nice story, but isn't God omnipresent? If I agreed, I would say it's a decent anecdote, but not much substance as truth.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:28 PM   #3
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Isaac, wish I could have been student in that classroom! He was asking for it!
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:04 AM   #4
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See Isaac, this is the problem I have with zealots like you. You REALLY don't see anything wrong with this story, do you?

You REALLY don't see anything wrong with a striking another human being on the job....by a trained killing machine no less?

You REALLY don't see anything wrong with initiating violence over words?

You REALLY don't see anything wrong with initiating violence over your religious beliefs....you know, like a muslim terrorist or something....

Well let let me break it down for ya....expelled from school, charged with some degree of assault in a school zone(are marines considered "deadly weapons" we just went from misdemeanor to felony), and will surely face some type of military punishment as well.

One would hope a Marine has more intelligence than the likes of the character in this story.
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:17 AM   #5
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Great story!
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:55 PM   #6
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See Isaac, this is the problem I have with zealots like you. You REALLY don't see anything wrong with this story, do you?

You REALLY don't see anything wrong with a striking another human being on the job....by a trained killing machine no less?

You REALLY don't see anything wrong with initiating violence over words?

You REALLY don't see anything wrong with initiating violence over your religious beliefs....you know, like a Muslim terrorist or something....

Well let let me break it down for ya....expelled from school, charged with some degree of assault in a school zone(are marines considered "deadly weapons" we just went from misdemeanor to felony), and will surely face some type of military punishment as well.

One would hope a Marine has more intelligence than the likes of the character in this story.
How is my buddy today did you forget your Prozac buddy ? Maybe time for a refill
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:23 PM   #7
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How is my buddy today did you forget your Prozac buddy ? Maybe time for a refill
Did you forget to answer the question or is this the standard christian method for pleading the 5th?

That's ok, we already know people like you are why we enjoy separation of church and state in this country. I bet you're right proud too, aren't ya?
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Nice story, but isn't God omnipresent? If I agreed, I would say it's a decent anecdote, but not much substance as truth.
Regardless of the outcome, it is quite arrogant for someone to tell God what to do, and expect him to do it pronto. That doesn't even work on normal human beings or even children a lot of the time. That teacher was acting childish rather than proving anything about religion.
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Regardless of the outcome, it is quite arrogant for someone to tell God what to do, and expect him to do it pronto. That doesn't even work on normal human beings or even children a lot of the time. That teacher was acting childish rather than proving anything about religion.

Still doesn't justify an act of violence against his person by a trained professional.
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It's all about what perspective you want to look at it from.
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It's all about what perspective you want to look at it from.
EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU, GENIUS.

The law is the law, there are no alternate perspectives when a Marine strikes a teacher in front of a classroom full of witnesses.

Separation of church and state...get used to it.
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Still doesn't justify an act of violence against his person by a trained professional.
Well under most circumstances I would agree with you, and maybe even this one, because I really do not know all the facts. Sure I would prefer that God do all his own “dirty work” and make it easy for all of us here on earth. But sometimes we humans are particularly well suited to do God’s will on his behalf. Why else were we created? We are here not only to pray to Him but to act in service to Him and he gave us a the “owners manual” to do so.

Sometimes God divinely inspires us and sometimes this inspiration calls us to action. For example, if a Good Samaritan sees someone in need on the side of the road and asks why, God may call him or her to action in order to ease that persons suffering. Is there a flip side to this type of deed?

Certainly “revenge is mine” said the Lord. I do not think a good Christian would assault someone else for revenge. But is possible that God can act through a person other than Jesus to get his message across? In other words, it is possible this person was willing to break the law and assault someone and be willing to suffer the earthly consequences, even jail time, believing his actions were God’s will?

No one can say if this guy acted 100% under his own motivation, or if he may have been divinely inspired to do what he did. We cannot peek inside someone’s mind like that. Or else a lot of lawyers would be out of a job!!
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Well under most circumstances I would agree with you, and maybe even this one, because I really do not know all the facts. Sure I would prefer that God do all his own “dirty work” and make it easy for all of us here on earth. But sometimes we humans are particularly well suited to do God’s will on his behalf. Why else were we created? We are here not only to pray to Him but to act in service to Him and he gave us a the “owners manual” to do so.
I'm pretty sure this is a fictional piece and we have all of the facts we are going to get.

So the question is, what laws are you willing to let the "divinely inspired" break. If punching an atheist is ok, what about stabbing a Satanist?
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Sometimes God divinely inspires us and sometimes this inspiration calls us to action. For example, if a Good Samaritan sees someone in need on the side of the road and asks why, God may call him or her to action in order to ease that persons suffering. Is there a flip side to this type of deed?
C'mon Dude.....Comparing punching someone in the face to helping an old lady change her tire is a stretch even for you!!!
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Certainly “revenge is mine” said the Lord. I do not think a good Christian would assault someone else for revenge. But is possible that God can act through a person other than Jesus to get his message across? In other words, it is possible this person was willing to break the law and assault someone and be willing to suffer the earthly consequences, even jail time, believing his actions were God’s will?
I reiterate...what laws are you willing to let the "divinely inspired" break. If punching an atheist is ok, what about stabbing a Satanist?
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No one can say if this guy acted 100% under his own motivation, or if he may have been divinely inspired to do what he did. We cannot peek inside someone’s mind like that. Or else a lot of lawyers would be out of a job!!
Lawyers wouldn't be out of a job because no aspect of our law is built around divine intervention. You either broke the law or you did not and the marine in this story clearly broke the law.
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