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Old 05-03-2007, 03:59 PM   #1
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Fla. deputy suspended

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...Suspended.html

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TAMPA, Fla. -- A sheriff's deputy was suspended for manhandling a sobbing woman who was speeding to a hospital to see her ailing father and didn't want to wait for him to write a ticket.

This is a classic case, gung ho and don't take the time to listen. How hard is it to ask what is wrong before beinf a bully.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:08 PM   #2
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I say to bad for the cop.....the girl was doing nearly double the speed limit AND drove away while he was writing a ticket. I can related to being scared for her loved ones, but her actions did not help her father one bit, all she did was jeopardize the safety of others by getting behind the wheel in such an erratic state.

It's like the Rodney King story.....all anyone talked about was the beating, forget the man was in a stolen car, speeding, running from the police with crack cocaine in his possession (probably high too) and refused to get on the ground when ordered multiple times by multiple officers.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:19 PM   #3
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The girl may have made some mistakes but if the officer would have given her time to explain then he could have escorted her to the hosipital. No he says he did not believe her story, something he could have checked over the radio. Escort her to the hosiptal, if she lied then take her to jail. But what do you think she would feel if she finally arrived to find him dead. I'm sure [me included] have driven fast in an emergency than I would have normally. I have done before when time is limited. My brother got bite by a copperhead in the arm. I did what I had too to get him to the hosiptal. If a officer had stopped me, I would have to him I had an emergency and to meet me at the ER. I would expect for the officer to have some compassion.
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I'm with you, Pie. If I were a cop that pulled a speeder over and was given an emergency case as the excuse, it doesn't take a psychic to read the look in their eye and know it is serious. It doesn't take much time or compassion to escort the person to the hospital to check things out. He is a public servant, for goodness sake! This cop obviously has an ego problem.

If I were this woman and this ignorant cop caused me to miss the death of a loved one, I would have his badge on my desk or his arm on my wall.
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The girl may have made some mistakes but if the officer would have given her time to explain then he could have escorted her to the hosipital.
The girl didn't have a legitimate reason for speeding nor was she in need of an escort. Her father was already at the hospital and unless she's a doctor, she wouldn't have been any help nor would she be allowed to see him if his condition was indeed critical.
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No he says he did not believe her story, something he could have checked over the radio. Escort her to the hosiptal, if she lied then take her to jail.
If the father drove himself to the hospital, then there's no reason for the police to have prior knowledge of the event. Therefore I suspect verification would have taken longer than just accepting the ticket. Instead, she drove away, compounding the problem exponetionally.

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But what do you think she would feel if she finally arrived to find him dead.
As I indicated above, if his condition was that critical, she would not have been allowed to see him immediately upon her arrival anyway.
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I'm sure [me included] have driven fast in an emergency than I would have normally.
That's my point, SHE wasn't in an emergency nor did she have anyone in her car that was in an emergency.
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I have done before when time is limited. My brother got bite by a copperhead in the arm. I did what I had too to get him to the hosiptal. If a officer had stopped me, I would have to him I had an emergency and to meet me at the ER. I would expect for the officer to have some compassion.
Again, SHE did not have anyone in the car with her that was in an emergency situation. Her father was already at the hospital.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:48 PM   #6
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When a person is dealing with a life or death situation they don't think straight. We don't know if the father drove hisself.


Look at this:
http://worldandnews.blogspot.com/200...on-way-to.html
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>all anyone talked about was the beating,

Depends on what "anyone" you're talking about. It's all the Sharptons of the world talked about. Anybody with sense knew better.
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When a person is dealing with a life or death situation they don't think straight. We don't know if the father drove hisself.
The video shows her telling the deputy that her father had suffered a heart attack and had driven himself to the emergency room.

From your first link....

Now I agree 100% the girl probably was not thinking straight, hence my comment about her getting behind the wheel in such an erratic state. However, that "shouldn't" excuse her for speeding and "running" from the police in a non emergency situation.
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I should be excused for my bad behavior because I wasn't thinking straight.


Granted, I wasn't thinking straight because I had 14 beers.
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Even if he did drive himself that doesn't make it any less important. My father 2 years ago drove hisself to the hosiptal to have surgery and the whole time he was having a stroke and did not know it. His surgery was cancelled because of the stroke. Just this past Christmas he was driving and was having a heart attack. This was on a Friday. Saturday they transported him to a town 1 hour away. They found out 4 arteries were clogged. They worried about him having another heart attack in the ambulance. When he got there they had to heart by-pass on him. Do you think I worried about speed when i was 2 hours away and not knowing what was happening.
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Even if he did drive himself that doesn't make it any less important.
I didn't say it wasn't important, I sad the girl wasn't in an emergency situation nor was anyone in her car.
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My father 2 years ago drove hisself to the hosiptal to have surgery and the whole time he was having a stroke and did not know it. His surgery was cancelled because of the stroke. Just this past Christmas he was driving and was having a heart attack. This was on a Friday. Saturday they transported him to a town 1 hour away. They found out 4 arteries were clogged. They worried about him having another heart attack in the ambulance. When he got there they had to heart by-pass on him. Do you think I worried about speed when i was 2 hours away and not knowing what was happening.
Do you think shaving 30 minutes off your arrival time made any difference in the health of your father or did you just needlessly endanger your life and the life of anyone else who just happened to be sharing the road with you that day?

Like I said, I understand what you are saying, and under the same circumstances I'm sure my actions would be identical, but that doesn't make it right or legal.
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Let us not forget... that cops hear ALL SORTS OF STORIES as to why someone is speeding.. ALL DAY LONG. She could have saved them all some time by pulling over immediately.. and calmly telling her story.

Not to mention, no matter the cirumstance, driving like a maniac, only puts others in jeapordy.
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Even if he did drive himself that doesn't make it any less important. My father 2 years ago drove hisself to the hosiptal to have surgery and the whole time he was having a stroke and did not know it. His surgery was cancelled because of the stroke. Just this past Christmas he was driving and was having a heart attack. This was on a Friday. Saturday they transported him to a town 1 hour away. They found out 4 arteries were clogged. They worried about him having another heart attack in the ambulance. When he got there they had to heart by-pass on him. Do you think I worried about speed when i was 2 hours away and not knowing what was happening.
I completely understand.. and under the same circumstance, I'd be driving like a bat out of hell as well. But I wouldn't drive so completely crazy as to risk injury to myself or others (hopefully) and if I cop tried to pull me over, it wouldn't do me any good to try and OUT RUN them. All you can hope for is to pull over immediately.. try to calmly tell your story, and hope and the cop is forgiving enough to let you go. But if you start cussin' out the cop, and acting irrational, they aren't going to care what your story is.
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I admit that peeling out of there out of impatience wasn't smart, but I also know cops CAN check the story out before jumping to conclusions. If the police don't have knowledge of the situation, they can call the hospital.

It's true they hear these excuses all the time, but they shouldn't blow them off as lies every single time. SOME of these stories are true, so they must check them out! Look into the woman's eyes and ask yourself if she is lying! If you can't tell, check it out yourself.

The cop is going to be suspended because he acted hastily and didn't do his job to serve the public properly.
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But that's what i'm saying we all would drive like a bat out of hell. It might not be right, I agree. You can drive a little faster without driving reckless. Why do you automatically say you are driving irrationally. if you are speeding to the hospital. As for my father 30 minutes could have made a difference if it didn't the ambulance would not have worried about his heart quitting before they got him there. Sure Iwas not in the ambulance but if I jacked around that could have been 30 minutes I might have had time with him. If a person is about to die they let the family stay with them. They don't seperate the family. No one knows that but the doctor, but if you don't know what is about to happen you will not be thinking straight. Why couldn't the officer offer to check it out for her on the radio, give her piece of mind. You never know when someone is going. The mind does wonders on a person during stress. Besides where the officer stopped her they were in the parking lot of the hosiptal. Why didn't the officer follow her in and check it out, then ticket her.
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