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Old 05-03-2007, 06:19 PM   #16
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Also it tells the charges were dropped against the woman under the circunstances.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:55 PM   #17
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I admit that peeling out of there out of impatience wasn't smart, but I also know cops CAN check the story out before jumping to conclusions. If the police don't have knowledge of the situation, they can call the hospital.
1. It's not the job of the street cop to investigate the story of every or any perp.
2. verifying her story would have taken more time than accepting the ticket.
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It's true they hear these excuses all the time, but they shouldn't blow them off as lies every single time. SOME of these stories are true, so they must check them out! Look into the woman's eyes and ask yourself if she is lying! If you can't tell, check it out yourself.
1. It's not the job of the street cop to investigate the story of every or any perp.
2. verifying her story would have taken more time than accepting the ticket.
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The cop is going to be suspended because he acted hastily and didn't do his job to serve the public properly.
He's not being suspended for acting quickly or ignoring her excuse. He's being suspended for use of excessive force and apparently she has the bruises to prove it.
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:52 PM   #18
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1. It's not the job of the street cop to investigate the story of every or any perp.
2. verifying her story would have taken more time than accepting the ticket.
It is his job to issue citations to and/or arrest legitimate perps, a label that is applied AFTER the cop ascertains the legitimacy of the crime. Street cops ARE required to hold minor investigations when the need arises in order to legitimize citations and arrests before making them. If a street cop receives a report of an intruder in your home, they must go and investigate before making any arrests.

Also, it would have been MOST quick if the cop would've just heard the words "emergency room" and escorted the woman there to legitimize her story before writing the stupid ticket.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:13 PM   #19
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The girl was wrong on somethings but to use excessive force is not. The article say the officer now knows it could have been handled differently. You can look in someone's eye and see despair or fear. That should have told the officer something, he is trained to look at people actions. Also there was no need to slam her against the car when she was pleading with the officer to let her see her dad. That just plain sounds heartless on the officer's behalf. Would he have wanted to see someone treat his child that way or would he hope that the officer has enough compasion to know the difference between trying to con an officer or being truthful about the situation.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:37 PM   #20
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It is his job to issue citations to and/or arrest legitimate perps, a label that is applied AFTER the cop ascertains the legitimacy of the crime. Street cops ARE required to hold minor investigations when the need arises in order to legitimize citations and arrests before making them. If a street cop receives a report of an intruder in your home, they must go and investigate before making any arrests.
Radar gun clocked her speeding, there is no excuse where the law is concerned.
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Also, it would have been MOST quick if the cop would've just heard the words "emergency room" and escorted the woman there to legitimize her story before writing the stupid ticket.
Or she could have obeyed the law, not endangered the lives of anyone else on the road, not gotten a speeding ticket, not been physically abused, and actually have seen her father that night instead of going to jail.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:54 PM   #21
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Yes, Brain, she could have, but that would also be the attitude of a heartless cop who has no sympathy for extenuating circumstances, HENCE where he was wrong.
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:19 PM   #22
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Yes, Brain, she could have, but that would also be the attitude of a heartless cop who has no sympathy for extenuating circumstances, HENCE where he was wrong.
No, he was "wrong" for using excessive force, something his training should have taught him to over come (or at least you hope it does). The girl obviously wasn't "fighting" him therefore there shouldn't be any reason for him to use a level of force that resulted in bruising.

Hopefully someone you love won't get shot while some cop is checking out the story of a speeder and then provide a police escort in a nonemergency situation, instead of doing his job
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:29 PM   #23
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That's where cops have to learn priority. Put yourself in the cop's position. If I were a street cop and in the process of citing a speeder or even investigating the need for a citation and a call comes in about a shooting that happened nearby, BELIEVE ME when I say SCREW THE TICKET! I'm going to let the speeder go right then and there and go help out at the shooting.

If I were the one shot, then I would expect the nearby cop to do this as well. Let the speeder go because there are bigger fish to fry now.

However, this is a hypothetical situation that was NOT the case here. This cop was not in any hurry to get to another scene. He had all the time he needed to check out this woman's story if he were willing to take it. And I believe he SHOULD have taken it.
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:51 PM   #24
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Well, I suppose you're right about the priorities....bad example on my part.

....but what it seems like is that you are promoting the "good ole boy system" that has corrupted our state for decades, without even realizing it.

You're advocating allowing people to break the law based on the excuse they provide.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:12 PM   #25
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It's not the good ole boy position has much as the officer should have been trained to interpret her begging has none threatening to him but concern for a love one. The amount of force is inexcusable. I mean she was not violent.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:28 PM   #26
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It's not the good ole boy position has much as the officer should have been trained to interpret her begging has none threatening to him but concern for a love one. The amount of force is inexcusable. I mean she was not violent.

I agree, and he should be held accountable for his actions too. I mean they've got him on camera. However, that should not excuse HER for speeding and then "running" from the police, but all the charges were dropped against her.
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Speeding, I'll give you that, but we are all guilty of that and somtimes it isn't even an emergency. Just every day driving. I try not too, but you know how it goes. As far as her running from the officer, no, she was not running from him delibertly, just trying to find her dad. She knew he was suppose to drive hisself maybe she was trying to make sure he made it. She was looking for his car.
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:22 AM   #28
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Speeding, I'll give you that, but we are all guilty of that and somtimes it isn't even an emergency. Just every day driving. I try not too, but you know how it goes. As far as her running from the officer, no, she was not running from him delibertly, just trying to find her dad. She knew he was suppose to drive hisself maybe she was trying to make sure he made it. She was looking for his car.
Yes I too am guilty of speeding from time to time, but I have never driven away from the police.

As far as her "deliberately" running or not? Didn't she deliberately put her car in gear and deliberately drive away from the scene and deliberately refuse to stop again until she got to the hospital? My personal opinion, a cop should have been allowed to shoot the perp at this point regardless of the crime. Flight from an officer equals guilt every single time.

I'm sorry, Piemaker720, but you cannot (or we should not, apparently they can) allow people to get away with breaking the law simply because their actions took place during an extreme emotional state....after all, you aren't willing to let the cop slide for man-handling her because of HIS emotional state, are you?
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I have been reading this entire thread.After reading I think that the lady did the wrong thing. You do not run from the police and had she taken her ticket she could have gone on to the hospital and talk to the judge later. There are to many crack heads out there with sob stories and others trying to cover up something in there vehicle to just take her word. NEVER fight with the police and certainly not over a speeding ticket
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after all, you aren't willing to let the cop slide for man-handling her because of HIS emotional state, are you?
That depends on how you look at it. The cop is getting a 5 day vacation startin May 22, so you could say they did let him slide.

I will say that in her position, I would NOT have driven off while the cop was writing the ticket. That was kinda dumb.
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