Urgent Message to pray for Ethan Powell

sbl_admin · 10-30-2007, 12:57 PM

The parents of Ethan Powell send out urgent message to pray

Isaac-Saxxon · 10-30-2007, 02:42 PM

St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis is a awesome place. I agree that prayer is needed for young Ethan and his family

I have children as many of you do and to think that your child could be in this situation is very hard to think about. I do volunteer work for Shriners and see on a first hand basis just how hard it is on the parents. The kids seem so happy even when faced with a life threating situation. The innocence of the children is a sign to me that God protects the babies. The parents need our prayers as much as young Ethan.

Pocahontas · 10-31-2007, 03:32 PM

I hope that little angel still has some fight in him! Let's all remember him in our prayers!

Morpheus · 10-31-2007, 05:02 PM

done!

joepole · 10-31-2007, 06:56 PM

If God isn't going to help a baby unless He gets enough attention/people asking then he's a real a$$hole.

rhertz · 10-31-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

If God isn't going to help a baby unless He gets enough attention/people asking then he's a real a$$hole.

It's not about giving Him attention. It's about expressing your faith in accordance with his Word. Faith is key to anything happening. If you don't believe something is possible, then it probably isn't possible [for you]. Almost everything that happens in this world is preceeded by someone who believes that it really can happen, be it landing on the moon, distroying not one but two skyscrapers, or saving a life. Faith makes it all happen. You have what you believe in. That could be money, talents, or many other things.

Isaac-Saxxon · 10-31-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

If God isn't going to help a baby unless He gets enough attention/people asking then he's a real a$$hole.

Joehole you are the ultimate rectum

joepole · 10-31-2007, 07:22 PM

>It's about expressing your faith in accordance with his Word.

And if He's not going to do anything to save a baby from dying unless enough enough people express their faith then, again, He's a serious a$$hole.

If a doctor said "I have the skills and ability to operate on this kid and save his life, but I won't do it unless I get 1,000 phone calls from people asking me to." you would think he's an a$$hole, wouldn't you? Why would you hold a god to a lesser standard than a doctor?

Again, if anyone (including God) can save this child and doesn't/won't for any reason (especially one as selfish as "I want attention") that person/deity is a jerk and isn't worthy of praise.

rhertz · 10-31-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

And if He's not going to do anything to save a baby from dying unless enough enough people express their faith then, again, He's a serious a$$hole..

Why would God do something here on earth that nobody here on earth believes is possible? God needs a certain level of FAITH to work with. Otherwise, we would all be robots or dogs. Man has choice and that separates us from all other living creatures. I'm glad I have choice even if it puts some responsibility on myself to have faith if I want something.

rhertz · 10-31-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

Joehole you are the ultimate rectum

Now that's an ad hominem attack!

rhertz · 10-31-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

If a doctor said "I have the skills and ability to operate on this kid and save his life, but I won't do it unless I get 1,000 phone calls from people asking me to." you would think he's an a$$hole, wouldn't you?

No. First the doctor must have faith in his or her ability to save life. if he doesn't have faith then he probably can't or won't save a life. Maybe if a 1000 people said "You can do it", then perhaps that person's faith might swell enough to actually believe it himself and then do it. But he won't do it if he doesn't believe he can.

joepole · 10-31-2007, 10:12 PM

So God won't save Ethan because He doesn't believe He can? That's seriously your argument?

Morpheus · 11-01-2007, 08:06 AM

I think you're playing devil's advocate here Joe and arguing for the sake of argument. You're pretty good at it too, in my limited experience here on the board. But if you're trying to logically argue something as ethereal as faith then its a non sequitur. I also don't think it's fair to ask mortals to guess at the motives or designs of a supreme being. It's just not possible.

Now, arguing whether a doctor is an a$$hole or not...THAT'S fair game. I realize you're not the one who made that comparison. But if you consider that Doctor's have the skills to treat and cure people, but the majority only treat those who can pay....

joepole · 11-01-2007, 01:53 PM

>I also don't think it's fair to ask mortals to guess at the motives or designs of a supreme being. It's just not possible.

Isn't that what the original poster did? Guessed that God wasn't going to save this baby's life unless we prayed to Him?

Morpheus · 11-01-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

>I also don't think it's fair to ask mortals to guess at the motives or designs of a supreme being. It's just not possible.

Isn't that what the original poster did? Guessed that God wasn't going to save this baby's life unless we prayed to Him?

no, I didn't see it that way. is that your interpretation? I'll reread it.

10-30-2007, 12:57 PM	#1
sbl_admin Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 1,965 Rep Power: 261	Urgent Message to pray for Ethan Powell The parents of Ethan Powell send out urgent message to pray

10-30-2007, 02:42 PM	#2
Isaac-Saxxon SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,421 Rep Power: 318	St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis is a awesome place. I agree that prayer is needed for young Ethan and his family I have children as many of you do and to think that your child could be in this situation is very hard to think about. I do volunteer work for Shriners and see on a first hand basis just how hard it is on the parents. The kids seem so happy even when faced with a life threating situation. The innocence of the children is a sign to me that God protects the babies. The parents need our prayers as much as young Ethan. __________________ Maranatha Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

10-31-2007, 03:32 PM	#3
Pocahontas SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,691 Rep Power: 273	I hope that little angel still has some fight in him! Let's all remember him in our prayers! __________________ "The greater your capacity to love, the greater your capacity to feel the pain." Jennifer Aniston

11-01-2007, 08:06 AM	#13
Morpheus Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 499 Rep Power: 225	I think you're playing devil's advocate here Joe and arguing for the sake of argument. You're pretty good at it too, in my limited experience here on the board. But if you're trying to logically argue something as ethereal as faith then its a non sequitur. I also don't think it's fair to ask mortals to guess at the motives or designs of a supreme being. It's just not possible. Now, arguing whether a doctor is an a$$hole or not...THAT'S fair game. I realize you're not the one who made that comparison. But if you consider that Doctor's have the skills to treat and cure people, but the majority only treat those who can pay.... Last edited by Morpheus; 11-01-2007 at 09:22 AM.

10-31-2007, 05:02 PM	#4
Morpheus Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 499 Rep Power: 225	done!

10-31-2007, 06:56 PM	#5
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	If God isn't going to help a baby unless He gets enough attention/people asking then he's a real a$$hole.

10-31-2007, 07:22 PM	#8
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	>It's about expressing your faith in accordance with his Word. And if He's not going to do anything to save a baby from dying unless enough enough people express their faith then, again, He's a serious a$$hole. If a doctor said "I have the skills and ability to operate on this kid and save his life, but I won't do it unless I get 1,000 phone calls from people asking me to." you would think he's an a$$hole, wouldn't you? Why would you hold a god to a lesser standard than a doctor? Again, if anyone (including God) can save this child and doesn't/won't for any reason (especially one as selfish as "I want attention") that person/deity is a jerk and isn't worthy of praise.

10-31-2007, 10:12 PM	#12
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	So God won't save Ethan because He doesn't believe He can? That's seriously your argument?

11-01-2007, 01:53 PM	#14
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	>I also don't think it's fair to ask mortals to guess at the motives or designs of a supreme being. It's just not possible. Isn't that what the original poster did? Guessed that God wasn't going to save this baby's life unless we prayed to Him?

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