Is Christianity In Trouble?

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by joepole

Christianity, like every religion ever invented, will eventually fall out of fashion and be forgotten.

2000 years has proven this statement wrong so far. Christians are well funded and so I see little evidence to support that notion any time soon.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

The only difference between religion and mythology is the number of current believers.

Not true. Mythology is not supported by extensive documentation. Christianity is very well documented. The Jews and Europeans kept very good records all things considered.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Not true. Mythology is not supported by extensive documentation. Christianity is very well documented. The Jews and Europeans kept very good records all things considered.

Thank you for stepping in and bringing your thoughts to the table. I do not mind admitting I am wrong when the facts point to that. Case in point joe on my spelling and a few other things he is a very educated man even though I disagree with "some" of his post and others make me laugh. I do not like being attacked by uneducated fool that would turn something fun into high blood pressure for others.
Isaac

[joepole]

2,000 years isn't too bad for a modern religion, but in the whole of human existence it's a blink of an eye.

Christianity has peaked, it is in decline. Eventually it will vanish.

Christianity is not very well documented. The Bible is a terrible reference material.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by joepole

2,000 years isn't too bad for a modern religion, but in the whole of human existence it's a blink of an eye.

Christianity has peaked, it is in decline. Eventually it will vanish.

Christianity is not very well documented. The Bible is a terrible reference material.

I can agree with part of this statement but vanish never. The religionist have done much harm to the Bible and so have the translations from the Hebrew writings. The Bible is a documentation of the seed line of Adam from start until today. Christianity is in decline because of the attack from the inside of the group and the outside. The inside has done damage by making money off it and the outsiders have always hated it. Blink of an eye is true ! Joe what is infinity ? What is time ? Is that air you think your breathing ? My point is what is real ? What we believe is real that is what is real. Just like the carbon dating it is a man made measure that as you pointed out is flawed in some ways. I would love to see a thread on Dinosaurs and how all those old bones ended up here on this planet. I have some thoughts (opinion) on this and I do not think the planet is 6000 years old it is "much" older how old I do not know.
Isaac

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Not true. Mythology is not supported by extensive documentation. Christianity is very well documented. The Jews and Europeans kept very good records all things considered.

Greek and Roman mythology existed for at least 1000 years before Christ and well after his crucification. As far as "documentation" you can start with the Iliad and the Odyssey which focus mainly on the Trojan war......and don't even get me started on the influence Latin has had on every modern language in existence.

To imply that religions other than Christianity lack the "documentation" to support their beliefs shows just how little you know about alternate beliefs.

[Lions Welp]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Greek and Roman mythology existed for at least 1000 years before Christ and well after his crucification. As far as "documentation" you can start with the Iliad and the Odyssey which focus mainly on the Trojan war......and don't even get me started on the influence Latin has had on every modern language in existence.

To imply that religions other than Christianity lack the "documentation" to support their beliefs shows just how little you know about alternate beliefs.

What does Greek and Roman Myths (stories and or lies) have to do with the history of the Bible. The old Testament goes a lot further back than Greek myths and insulting other peoples beliefs is rude and uncalled for. I do not see you telling us what it is you do belief instead you insult and call names to make your bogus points. Respect is the order of the day so please refrain from the attracts and please post your opinion about what you believe instead of putting down others for the sake of fun. I have good friends that believe in all kinds of religions and I do not dislike them or put them down for what the believe. Your hate tactics and mean spirit does not help others it turns them away from your post. Get your point across with out the personal insults. I am sure none of us are perfect and you may want to try to be nice to people and they will want to post to your post. I can see your points are at the bottom of the scale do you think that is just random ? I am not tying to pick a fight just please calm your post down and stick to the thread not personal attacks. There are other forums if you would like try them I am sure they would feel the same way.
LW

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Lions Welp

What does Greek and Roman Myths (stories and or lies) have to do with the history of the Bible. The old Testament goes a lot further back than Greek myths and insulting other peoples beliefs is rude and uncalled for. I do not see you telling us what it is you do belief instead you insult and call names to make your bogus points. Respect is the order of the day so please refrain from the attracts and please post your opinion about what you believe instead of putting down others for the sake of fun. I have good friends that believe in all kinds of religions and I do not dislike them or put them down for what the believe. Your hate tactics and mean spirit does not help others it turns them away from your post. Get your point across with out the personal insults. I am sure none of us are perfect and you may want to try to be nice to people and they will want to post to your post. I can see your points are at the bottom of the scale do you think that is just random ? I am not tying to pick a fight just please calm your post down and stick to the thread not personal attacks. There are other forums if you would like try them I am sure they would feel the same way.
LW

I have a life....I don't use the internet to make friends. You should try it sometime, then maybe you won't take posts so personally.

BTW, if you want to know what Mythology has to do with Religion, try reading ALL of the posts instead of just the last two or three. Jumping in the middle of a conversation without a clue as to what is being discussed should earn you an insult, but some people lack the intelligence to recognize their own ignorance, therefore I think the insult would just be wasted....

[Lions Welp]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

I have a life....I don't use the internet to make friends. You should try it sometime, then maybe you won't take posts so personally.

BTW, if you want to know what Mythology has to do with Religion, try reading ALL of the posts instead of just the last two or three. Jumping in the middle of a conversation without a clue as to what is being discussed should earn you an insult, but some people lack the intelligence to recognize their own ignorance, therefore I think the insult would just be wasted....

I have been reading your thread and I can see you are a evil bastard. It is freaks like you that cause trouble where ever you go. You are a walking insult and I am sure many others find you be quite the rectum. Take your smell and go to another web site Bull **** R. No I do not own this site but I will not put up with communist pig like you.
LW

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Greek and Roman mythology existed for at least 1000 years before Christ and well after his crucification. As far as "documentation" you can start with the Iliad and the Odyssey which focus mainly on the Trojan war......and don't even get me started on the influence Latin has had on every modern language in existence.

To imply that religions other than Christianity lack the "documentation" to support their beliefs shows just how little you know about alternate beliefs.

The Iliad and the Odyssey were traditional legends and fables written by Homer who did not profess to be a prophet. He recorded oral, epic poems that served to entertain the ancient Greeks. Entertainment does not equal a religion. There is question if Homer or group known as Homer even existed.

Are you claiming that Jesus of Nazareth didn’t exist? Christians, Muslims, and Jews all agree he existed in history, but disagree on his status. If you agree he existed in history, then that’s a start. Then all we might disagree on is his status as son of God or just any other human being like you or me.

I made no comment about "alternate beliefs" whatever that means. I did comment about Mythology and now Homer and Jesus existing one way or another.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by joepole

2,000 years isn't too bad for a modern religion

Go Christians! Ra Ra Ra!

I'm ok siding with the "not too bad" group....

[LateNight]

When I've had too much to drink, after one of my "lateNights" and I wake up early the next morning. I know who I pray to, in hopes that I'll feel better instead of feeling like I'm gonna die

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Lions Welp

I have been reading your thread and I can see you are a evil bastard. It is freaks like you that cause trouble where ever you go. You are a walking insult and I am sure many others find you be quite the rectum. Take your smell and go to another web site Bull **** R. No I do not own this site but I will not put up with communist pig like you.
LW

LAF

Now I'm a communist....

and here all this time I thought I thought Christians were idiots.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by rhertz

The Iliad and the Odyssey were traditional legends and fables written by Homer who did not profess to be a prophet. He recorded oral, epic poems that served to entertain the ancient Greeks. Entertainment does not equal a religion. There is question if Homer or group known as Homer even existed.

Likewise, the authors of the Bible were not prophets. They were simple men who wrote stories that involved their god. Not unlike Homer, wouldn't you say?

Not to mention that is but one example. The Iliad and the Odyssey are considered the first works (of those that survived to modern times), not the only works....as is the case with the Bible. Remember all that "documentation" you were talking about yesterday?

Are you claiming that Jesus of Nazareth didn’t exist?

No I'm not, but you certainly cannot prove that he did exist either.

Christians, Muslims, and Jews all agree he existed in history, but disagree on his status. If you agree he existed in history, then that’s a start. Then all we might disagree on is his status as son of God or just any other human being like you or me.

I have no problem with the concept that he was just a man preaching a message of peace....it's the "miracles" I refuse to believe.

The "problem" here is that, as with the astronomy thread, you are relying on the majority as your "proof". Religion is not democracy, and just like with the flat-Earth concept, it is quite possible for the majority to be completely and entirely wrong.

So I'll ask you again, can you even prove that Jesus existed or is the Bible and faith all you have, all you've ever had, and all you ever will have?

I made no comment about "alternate beliefs" whatever that means. I did comment about Mythology and now Homer and Jesus existing one way or another.

The belief/worship of the Greek Gods is an "alternate belief".
Islam is an alternate belief.
Buddhism is an alternate belief.

[BrainSmashR]

Long story short....

Tell me Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead without one shred of evidence outside of your 1 source, and we've got a problem.


Tell me you have faith and therefore don't need scientific evidence and I'll drop the subject because there's nothing for me to argue there.