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Old 04-18-2007, 08:21 PM   #31
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O.k. Brain, now will you ADMIT you were wrong ?

pa·tri·ot /ˈnoun
1.a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

2.a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, esp. of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.



Go look it up, on dictionary.com if you don't believe me


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Old 04-18-2007, 08:25 PM   #32
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How many times have you been polled before the President made a decision?
How about the Governor?
How about your mayor?

is the answer very rarely?

That only shows how corrupted the system has become, it does NOT change the fact that they're our servants! Repeat to yourself as necessary.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:27 PM   #33
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The government and the country are not synonymous. Patriots are loyal to our country, not to our government. Usually that's the same thing, but when it's not the former prevails.

>That guy named Thomas was and American patriot rebelling against the ENGLISH government.

All of those quotations were from after the American Revolution and were his comments on the United States, not life under George III.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:28 PM   #34
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O.k. Brain, now will you ADMIT you were wrong ?

pa·tri·ot /ˈnoun
1.a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

2.a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, esp. of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.



Go look it up, on dictionary.com if you don't believe me


On page 1, I posted a link to Merriam-Webster Online that made no such indication....who's responsible for dictonary.com?
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:30 PM   #35
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Who cares what any dictionary has to say on the matter?
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:32 PM   #36
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That only shows how corrupted the system has become, it does NOT change the fact that they're our servants! Repeat to yourself as necessary.
LAF

Since the "system" has never put every decision to a public vote, are you implying it's been "corrupt" since it's inception or are you rattling off again?!?!?!?
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Who cares what any dictionary has to say on the matter?

All kids should get an A just for trying, huh?
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Presidents, governors, mayors, judges...they're there to do our collective bidding. Call it their "best judgement", but thats whatever the hell we say it is, and when its NOT what we say it is, they're removed from office. Thats how its supposed to work.
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Presidents, governors, mayors, judges...they're there to do our collective bidding. Call it their "best judgement", but thats whatever the hell we say it is, and when its NOT what we say it is, they're removed from office. Thats how its supposed to work.

ok....remove a public servant from office since you can't make one serve you.

Yes, there IS a process, but you and I, as typical voters, have absolutely no involvement in the impeachment process what so ever.
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LAF

Since the "system" has never put every decision to a public vote, are you implying it's been "corrupt" since it's inception or are you rattling off again?!?!?!?
Didnt I JUST ask you NOT to be stupid? NO, I dont mean EACH and EVERY decision they make. I'm sayin their "best judgement" had damn well better be what the public wants...not that there aint plenty of public servants that do whatever the hell THEY want to do...thats called MALFEASANCE, and it usually costs them their jobs, and sometimes their freedom.
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>All kids should get an A just for trying, huh?

No, nor should anyone ever consider a dictionary to be an aribter of language. Secondary sources such as dictionaries are recorders, and flawed ones at that.

Who cares what M-W thinks a word means?
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Didnt I JUST ask you NOT to be stupid? NO, I dont mean EACH and EVERY decision they make. I'm sayin their "best judgement" had damn well better be what the public wants...not that there aint plenty of public servants that do whatever the hell THEY want to do...thats called MALFEASANCE, and it usually costs them their jobs.
As I indicated earlier, "the public" doesn't play a role in the impeachment process. Our only choice will be whether or not to vote for or against said candidate when and if he is up for reelection.
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>All kids should get an A just for trying, huh?

No, nor should anyone ever consider a dictionary to be an aribter of language. Secondary sources such as dictionaries are recorders, and flawed ones at that.

Who cares what M-W thinks a word means?
They are what's known as a creditable source.
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As I indicated earlier, "the public" doesn't play a role in the impeachment process. Our only choice will be whether or not to vote for or against said candidate when and if he is up for reelection.
Trust me, any public servant with half a brain knows which side his bread
is buttered on. Public outcry is usually sufficient to make the wheels of government turn, even if election day is in the distant future.
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Trust me, any public servant with half a brain knows which side his bread
is buttered on. Public outcry is usually sufficient to make the wheels of government turn, even if election day is in the distant future.

Exactly, you may influence his decisions

he does not serve you.
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