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Old 02-15-2007, 04:52 AM   #31
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What does church have to do with this

Being a Christian and going to church do not go hand in hand. Church and religion both are man made and just like politics people and money make for problems. The Bible and Christianity are what the founders of this country used to base our laws on. This country is drifting away from that and that may make some of you happy but not me. Socialism is anti Christian and so are the people that pursue that agenda. Call me what you will it does not make any difference in world affairs but there will be house cleaning before all is said and done. If you choose to be anti Christian that is your free choice have a great trip. FYI I do not go to church and have not been in one for over twenty years I do read my Bible and proud of it and history books and I agree that the evangelicals have high jacked the churches and do not teach Bible instead their own dogma so there is good reason for people to loose sight of the truth and that truth is Christianity is a reality not a religion or a church and this falling away from God is written of so play the part of the fool if you choose I can not help you and you can not help your self
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:45 AM   #32
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Feeling a little Holier than thou this morning, eh? Yet another identifying flaw possessed by most zealots.

Your condemnation and false labeling of those who do not share your beliefs shows that, without law, you'd kill over your beliefs as was the common practice of the holier than thou Christian, once upon a time.


Of course, you'll deny the accusation, because afterall, you're a better Christian, right?
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:48 AM   #33
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Of course, you'll deny the accusation

I have told you to believe what you want but your accusations are just that and nothing more. I am not the judge and you sir should be glad of that on one hand and on the other well the great leveler comes to us all even someone as wise as you are. You came on this board and went right after my threads and I see you have posted on other forums and been ask to leave. I will say thanks for your help at keeping this thread alive for there are many that read and do not write and they too can make up their own mind as to what they believe. I am very content knowing that the dregs of society will be purged for the eternity.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:51 AM   #34
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This topic is getting a little too hot and heavy for my taste. I thought we were discussing Judge Roy Moore.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:02 AM   #35
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This topic is getting a little too hot and heavy for my taste. I thought we were discussing Judge Roy Moore.
No, we were talking about the Nazis, now stay on topic !

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Old 02-15-2007, 10:17 AM   #36
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Now, now children

I was ok with the disagreement until the name calling got started. Judge Roy Moore did the right thing and not the left thing. Call me a zealot or a putz or dude what ever it does not change the facts it is a way to deflect the issue at hand. I will never fit in the PC crowd.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:22 AM   #37
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The Nazis were not socialists. The fact that they had the word "Socialist" in the English translation of their party's name doesn't make them socialist.

>This country is founded on Christian principals and the Ten Commandments are the base root of the entire legal system.

Both of those statements are incorrect.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:16 AM   #38
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Well I sort of agree

The Nazis were not socialists they are fascists I agree with that. It was on the other hand the Christians that left England and brought with them the Bible and that is where our base comes from for our Constitution. It was and is all about freedom of religion.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:49 AM   #39
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I was ok with the disagreement until the name calling got started. Judge Roy Moore did the right thing and not the left thing. Call me a zealot or a putz or dude what ever it does not change the facts it is a way to deflect the issue at hand. I will never fit in the PC crowd.
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Roy Moore broke the law and there is nothing right about that.

Now if you don't like being refered to as a zealot, try acting like a rational human being instead of someone who refers to criminal activity as "the right thing" and calling people who support the laws of this country Socialists.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:23 PM   #40
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If the shoe fits .......

yes you got it wear it. Your name calling along with your post speak for themselves. You may like to be PC but not me not now not ever. I know you will never agree so be it. I have made my point and that point is Judge Roy Moore may have not obeyed the law that was handed down by ACLU judges but he stood up and called a spade a spade. The attack on Christianity has reached to a level of no return. There will be a correction and it will not be the hand of any man !
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:00 PM   #41
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It was on the other hand the Christians that left England and brought with them the Bible and that is where our base comes from for our Constitution. It was and is all about freedom of religion.
I know this isn't entirely on-topic, but I feel compelled to share some historical facts on this matter.

Historically speaking, the country wasn't officially founded until the signing of the Declaration of Independance. The 55 men who took part in this act of treason against the British did not do so as Christians, they did so in a patriotic sense. However, if you want to bring religion into the picture, I can point out that 9 of the 55 signers of the Declaration were, in fact, Freemasons. Among them included Benjamin Franklin and Jon Hancock.

Whether or not you consider Freemasonry a religion is still open to debate today. Officially, the Masons do not consider themselves a religion, but it has been said that one cannot be a devout Christian and an informed Mason at the same time as their principles will clash. Masons, officially speaking, acknowledge all religious traditions and do not try to favor any one specific practice. This is why the manuals of every major religion are found on the podium at most major Mason lodges.

In addition to this, I also happen to know that the Statue of Liberty, despite being a gift from France, is actually a depiction of the Roman Goddess Libertas, from whom we get the word "liberty." With this in mind, you begin to see that this country was not founded solely on Christian principles and not solely by Christians. America was, and is, a country of numerous different races, religions, and diversities. We are brought together not by our differences, but by what we have in common: the ground we all tread on.

I agree that Judge Moore was wrong when he refused the order to remove the Commandments he put up, but this doesn't mean that I agree that the order was legal or constitutional. It is on this ground that I can understand Judge Moore's position.
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Good post Mr. Spirit. This is the mixing bowl and there where natives here when the English got here and other ethnos peoples. Some might say Clovis Man what ever the case you have a very good point with your post. Christianity was sent to the lost tribes as a blessing and every where It went blessings came with It. When I say Christianity I do not mean churches and religion which are part of the man made construct. Thank you for you post
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>Historically speaking, the country wasn't officially founded until the signing of the Declaration of Independanc.

Actually, it wasn't officially founded until the ratification of the Constitution.
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Actually, it wasn't officially founded until the ratification of the Constitution.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
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http://www.usacitylink.com/usa/

The Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4th, 1776, which was the day we became an indepedent nation free of British rule. This day is the origins of our Independence day celebrated on the 4th of July every year as America's Birthday.
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