It's funny only you have sought out to reply to me, yet I've never once looked for any posts by you. Why? Because I don't respect you either for the way you treat others (I read before I even registered here) and the ignorance you help spread. Making unclear statements with no evidence repeatedly and being as immature as you and some others have been here, I had found (and still haven't) found any reason to believe any claims you make.

I still haven't even gotten to know any of you well, and I still have no negative views of any of you, but you still all seem to think I'm "out to get you" and trying to impede on your ability to freely believe what you believe religiously, politically, etc.

Do so, do it all you wish, I support your decisions either way, but I would also like to put out what my education has taught me, and if someone else can stick me into a hole, I usually listen, and you may not see me change my views, but I think a lot more than most about things like this, and that's how I may appear to be well-prepared; it's just how I am.

I would be more than happy to make friends here, but I won't do that without gaining respect from members who are there to show their knowledge, true compassion (not emotionally concocted euphemisms), and reason.

I thank you all for your time in debating with me, but even if I seem to be aggressive in posting, I'm one of the calmest and clear-minded people you could meet in reality, and the odd thing is we all live so close, yet think twice passing each other on the road or anywhere else!

Stickin with "2." makes you an "atheist" or one who does NOT believe in God . And as I said in an earlier post, there are no true atheists, only those who profess atheism, which is what you just did.

Yes, I am a-theistic. Without-God. I do not believe in a supreme being, if you are trying to pin me to that. I never stated once and never will state otherwise.

But I do not claim "I am an atheist" because doing so would make me related to a specific organization or loose collectivist idea to which I don't necessarily represent or uphold. I have my own personal beliefs, and those beliefs do not include a deity, yes, if that is what you want me to explain.

No one person is likely to ever change your view at this point. More likely personal experience as you grow older, and how they effect you, might change your mind.

I spent the first 20 years of life, 'not believing'. I was "too smart" for that. But I've changed my mind a bit about all that in the last 20 years. I've seen too much, experienced too much, to easily explain away everything.

Ok...you've admitted to being an atheist. Thats good...at least, its progress. Now, you say you're familiar with "Pascal's Wager". If thats true, then you know that belief in God is the only logical choice, which is to say that there really is NO choice at all. So then it follows that your current belief system, such as it is, is illogical and irrational, and could quite possibly have the gravest (no pun intended) of consequences for the ultimate disposition of your soul. Fortunately for you, theres still time to reconsider...assuming you dont kick the bucket some time today!;)

There! I've fullfilled my Christian duty. I'll say no more about it.

"Pascal's Wager" is true for now
 

There will come a time in the near future that it will be to late for "Pascal's Wager" and the gnashing of teeth will take the place of "Pascal's Wager". I would say that this young man is just getting to the age where he can see out of the nest and like LN said life will teach most of us the lessons that no single person can teach us. I have a question for the new avatar Santabot. Do you in any way know brain from other forums or even your personal life ?
Al as always I like you and your post and God Bless you and your family Sir:clap: :clap:
Isaac

Hmm, I wonder what Pascal's Wager says for people who are neither Christian nor Atheist.

I read on one of your drug posts that you are a born again Christian, I read on your own Santabot post that you attend a local church currently and it's extra curricular activites and I read on this post that you are of athiest beliefs. Will the real Santabot please stand up?:confused:

I think you will have to wait until the school bell rings and the bus runs then he will be on line :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

athiest (Atheist ) you can down load spell check I had too :D

activites (activities) it is real easy just click on ABC top right :peace:

Just trying to help a new member :clap: Welcome to the board Pocahontas !

The Saxon

The Pug is Buddist. She seems smart, so I asked her. She gave a snort and said that it pertains to a every living creature at a basic level regardless of religous affiliation or species. (Affililation sure is a big word for a dog, I told you she is smart)

Seriously, do you believe in a single living God as being a higher power or not? Not gods (pronounced gods-za) but God? Not a statue but God? Not the sun or moon, but God? If asked the questions, "who is my lord? Who do I bow to and pray to?" and your answer is __fill_in_blank___, and you put anything in "fill in blank" other than the word "God", then I'm guessing Pascal's Wager would apply to you. :)

IMHO, there is much to gain by believing in a single living God who is as generious and loving as He is. And that's all I have to say about that.

Well excuse me Mr. Spelling Police...activities was a typo, I don't mind not being familiar with how to spell Atheist....and lastly I believe YOU incorrectly spelled your own name!!! Saxxon has had 2 xx's in your previous posts!!:p

Just hit him with some negative rep points! That ought to teach him! (duck)
:D :D :D

I have to believe what the United States government projects in order to live here? Certainly not.

It is not by my choice that I attend a local church, it's because of family, they are very aware of my religious stance and I express it openly as often as possible. Where has there been a deviation in any of my posts? Atheists can attend any religious service they like, may I interest you in looking at Unitarianism?

I don't ride any bus, I own a vehicle that I purchased on my own accord. Thank you very much.

Isaac checking Pokies Spelling: Funny
Rhertz making a suggestion about points: Pretty Funny:
Pokie beating Isaac at his own game: PRICELESS


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Do you drive up and down the road wasted ? If so what color and make car so I can watch out for you coming down the road. DWI is no joke ! Don't do it you will pay the price.

DWI =/= DUI. As previously stated: I don't drink, almost never. I've only even done that a handful of times in my life.

For your information, yes I have driven (at peak) maybe 75% of the time high, and am even more cautious a driver. I really don't care what you or anyone will tell me about how dangerous that is, but I'm sure you can find plenty more petty things to worry about. Aren't you supposed to be waiting to die? Doesn't that put you in a better place, according to your Holy book? Why should you care anyway?

Now you see, you have proven your stupidity in this area....

DUI: Driving under the Influence which means the influence can be of alcohol or drugs. You can be arrested for be under the influence of drugs and yes officers can detect that and request for a blood level to be drawn.

I would hate for you to find out about this the hard way.

Listen here Squaw :rolleyes: I have used two XX's in Saxxon from another web site that I log in on and the single X was already used on that site. So if you had read my early post you might have caught that :peace: You can use one X if you spell check is down loaded you will catch it then :laugh:

I already have been caught, if you read my statement in another post. There was smoke billowing from my vehicle, and he still let me off, you don't know the circumstances so don't pretend to.

Because at 17 boy you are young dumb and full of drugs and I do not want you killing me or anybody else while you are on some trip driving down the road it is against the law for a reason boy ! :nono: :nono: Your "peak" may rob another family of their loved one so grow up and act with responsibility.

Ok. I've done that, where did I state the last time I've ever taken a drug? Nowhere on this board, and you have no knowledge of the date. Although I can say that it's been multiple months since then. Just because I don't do them anymore does not mean I cannot learn about them or support them.

If those family members are atheists, they'll just be in hell anyway, right? And you bible thumpers will be singing in the clouds, so why bother?

I am aware of the repercussions of such a decision, and I never claimed that all of my decisions were without flaws. I mean, do you people really believe that I claim everything I've ever done was correct? Hopefully you don't think the same about yourself.

Now you listen...look directly above your roaring lion's head and what do you and everyone else on this board see??? Isaac-SaXXon....Man you will argue about anything!!!:laugh: :laugh:

OOOOOoooo! You definitely need to hit Isaac with neg rep points for that remark!! Slap that boy hard! :D :D :D

Did I pretend to know details? I did not know I did that. You are assuming way too much, little one. I bet the next one won't let you off so easy.

Big Brother is watching!!

And you don't feel ashamed by that terribly scary fact?

tsk tsk

What is "freedom" and "privacy" anyway?

You admitted it last night!! But you were probably too high to remember what you posted and what you said. It's ok though. The proper authorities have already seen it!

No I am not scared to have someone watch in the manner in which I am speaking of. I have nothing to hide. You on the other hand do though.

Where's this quote?

And if you read "the proper authorities"' statement, you will note that they agree with me, and not you, in this situation.

Again, the last time I've done any drug was months ago, I guess you are just as illiterate as you were when I came here to begin with, because you've shown constant misunderstanding from the get-go.

What am I hiding? I'm openly telling you of illegal activities and have no shame in doing so. Ever heard of NORML? I'm a member, and you can see that there are many who also don't hide from what you personally may consider something to cover up.

I know about NORML and that's a pretty lame defense for illegal activity. So you're part of a group who thinks drugs should be legal. Big freaking whoop! They ARE illegal and being part of their group does not make you above the law.

The Saxon with one x will yield right of way to Pocahontas for technically she is right but literally she is wrong. :think:
Always watch a Saxxon :rolleyes:

They don't HAVE to be illegal and they haven't always BEEN illegal.

Just because that's the sad way things are now, and the mentality you have may exist, doesn't mean that it can't change or that it's always been that way.

And poke/sax please stop the off-topic bs.

You know something boy. Your avatar looks like Jimmy Hendrix and you may have been looking at the sun to long on one of you peaks and just do not know it yet. So back to your thread you are the result of the liberal agenda of take God out of school's and now we are seeing more children like you who want to legalize LSD and who knows what else ? Sounds like you have not met a drug you don't like. Do you go to Magnet High ?

When did I say anything about legalizing LSD? I believe it should be decriminalized to some extent, but I never said that I would ever want anyone in this country publicly running the streets on acid, it's not something you do outside of your house or a park, normally. I don't stare at the sun, I quite enjoy its effects, and haven't done it in a while (at least until it's in town from SF again). And I've already stated before, I've met many drugs I don't like, I won't name them, but I've had one or more experiences with them to see if they continually produced ill effects, and I discontinued use afterwards.

Thank God you are not my son. Then there is the genetic thing I would have never had one just like you. I would have busted his ass long before 17 :nono:

I've been busted plenty. I don't even get along with my parents in most cases, but I still have a personal relationship with them and they learn to treat me like a person also, I'm no longer a slave of my age. I do as much as I can for them in exchange for help until I am of age of majority.

The fact is, parents can bust their kids' asses all day long and still not change the way they act. I'm proof of that concept. My mind isn't solely loaned to parental types for molding, I do a bit of shaping myself.

I think he is just trying to get a rise out of everybody by glorifying drugs. As far as the ass busting, if and when he gets caught, the big prison bucks may handle that. That's a lesson the magnet school doesn't teach...:eek:

Your parents should have busted your ass from day one and you would have had some work ethic and not frying your brain.

:clapbig: :clapbig: Isaac, me too! I really don't believe in spankings unless a child is going to harm themselves. He would never leave the house and definitely no computer.