Thanks, Isaac. I majored in Political Science and actually wrote a term paper on the "right to secession."

Apparently there were alot of people back then who disagreed with those sentiments. There are alot of people who disagree with them even now.

Agree or disagree, that's how it is. Many people disagreed with the idea that the Earth was round, but alas, it is.

Thats the whole point. Thats NOT how it WAS. Thats how it IS because the North won, and only for that reason. A simple case of "might makes right". It boils down to a difference of opinion.

No it's square!

Personally.. I don't like to think of how things might have turned out.. if it weren't for "THESE UNITED STATES" I will agree however.. there are many things that should simply be left up to "states' rights"

Military force settled the question. Might makes right. The victors write the history books. Its that simple.

The victors write the history books
 

I agree with that statement Al. I have read many history books and all to often the victors write the history books and while doing so they rewrite history. This too has happened in the "translations" of the Bible. One word or a entire verse or chapter can change everything.
Isaac

Let's save biblical translations for another thread.

I'm sorry that you feel so scorned, Al. The southern states weren't states, with the exception of Texas, before they joined the United States either. They were territories or just large tracts of land.

Choo Choo are you the thread police ?
 

Sounds a bit like you are from up north ? Just like the "Bible" what someone thinks about history can be changed by one quote that is false or even one word. Al does not post untill after dark so you will have to wait on his reply and great quotes.
Isaac

Here ya go.
 

Flyin' high in front of the caddo parish courthouse.
What flag is that specifically ? anyone know ? For it has the rebel flag in it, but it's not the whole flag ..

http://www.shreveport.com/forums/pho...710a9eaeff.jpg

Where is General Lee in this photo ?
 

That was back in the day when we where still the land of cotton. Well one thing for sure is "change" and oh yes "choice" ! Good post LN I like the photo.:clap: :clap:
Isaac

Good post goes out to LN, IS, and sb live. Education is the key to victory.. To the victor go the spoils.

Confederate 3rd National Flag
 

Not to be confused with the 2nd National Flag:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1937_84533304

History of the Confederate 2nd National Flag

Not more than a year after the adoption of the Stars and Bars the issue of designing a new flag for the Confederate States was raised with the intention to create a flag that was in no way similar to the Union's Stars and Stripes. Adopted on May 1, 1863 this flag displayed the Battle Flag in the canton on a field of pure white, giving it it's the "Stainless Banner". The white field is symbolic for the purity of the Cause which is reprsented. One of the first uses for this flag was to drape the coffin of General Thomas J. Jackson. "Stonewall" Jackson died on May 10, 1863 from pneumonia he contracted in the treatment of his injuries received on May 2nd. On May 12, his body lay in state in the Confederate House of Representatives, by order of the president, the first new flag manufactured dropped his coffin. This "Stainless Banner" is now on display in the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond.

History of Confederate 3rd National Flag

Due to the fact that the 2nd National's pure white field could be mistaken for a flag surrender, on March 4, 1865 this last flag of the Confederacy was adopted.
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1937_84690107
This design added a red bar to the end of the "Stainless" flag. This flag flew for thirty six days in 1865 until the south surrendered on April 9th.

And to those of you, who noticed my 'goof' oops.

LOL, thats quite alright, Matt...how can I "feel scorned" when all I've ever known was the Union? It was all over long before I was born, though I've always believed in the South's cause, and I make no apologies for it.

As I stated earlier, in those days, fully half the country disagreed with you, and I'd be willing to bet that half the country still does. Had the Confederacy prevailed we wouldnt be debating the issue. But they didnt win, the Union did. Ofcourse, there could always be a rematch, right? All too often, individual states find themselves in pissin contests with the federal government. And when was the last time anyone agreed with the federal government's stand on a given issue, be it medical marijuana, physician assisted suicide, segregation or whatever? In each case, one state or another has examined the issue and bowed to the will of it's constituents, only to have the feds come along and tell them how the cookie should crumble. I dont know about you, Matt, but that pisses me the hell off.

Should we start a thread discussing what the state and federal governments should/shouldn't decide?

New thread: http://shreveport.com/forums/showthr...=5787#post5787