Evolution vs creationism AKA "The Monkeymen vs The Bible Thumpers"
 

The two need not be mutually exclusive.

Newtonian gravity is, indeed, considered a law, but that doesn't mean it's true, just that it's accepted as correct for most purposes. It certainly doesn't hold up a quantum scales. If it did none of us would be here.

LOL, isn't that where "Dark Matter" comes into play ?

No. General relativity and Newtonian physics are at odds with each other at nucleus-level scales..

Dispelling The Top 10 Myths About Evolution
 

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Dispelling The Top 10 Myths About Evolution

Dispelling The Top 10 Myths About Staff Writers
 

[quote=Bob]You all should just love this :cool: [quote]

I found it funny....

Their first sentence is a total contradiction in and of itself. They start off by establishing that the US is a world leader in science and technology. This is fact. Then they go on to express an opinion that contradicts that fact, and indeed insults "the leader" with no explanation of how their contradiction makes any sense.

This statement is equally true:
This lack of knowledge in the face of overwhelming scientific, historical and biblical evidence, springs from a number of negative influences in contemporary society: Poor historical education in some regions of the country, misinformation in the mass media (especially Staff Writers), and deliberate obfuscation by supporters of Atheism and Macro Evolution.

This topic is all about opinion and rhetoric, or else someone can simply lay out the proof by creating life from scratch in a laboratory out of "chemical soup". Until such an experiment can be demonstrated, then the notion that man evolved from a "chemical soup" into a single cell creature then into a humanoid is simply the expression of an unproven opinion at best, or the expression of a political agenda at worst. In other words an unproven "theory".

I suppose their point being.. that the "U.S." as you point out is a world leader in science and technology.. HOWEVER, when you get down to Joe Blow on the street.. they state:
that was my take on it anyways.

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Education still has a long way to go
 

Recent surveys have revealed that only about half of Americans realize that humans have never lived side by side with dinosaurs. Half of all Americans do not have the IQ to know if they read the book. There still good people just never had a chance to learn. Just think what the third world people have in the way of education it is sad real sad. I agree with Late Night.
Snow Man :cool:

A few different conversations here
 

ok. for starters, i'm not all that a religious person.. don't attend church. I do consider myself a spiritual person however..

I'm just wondering what different levels of evolution we are talking here. and what do others believe.

I know some people say, "Humans didn't evolve from no monkeys" or the like..

I guess the question I want to ask.. is who here believes that we homo sapiens.. DID evolve from earlier species.. such as homo ergaster ?

Did we not evolve from earlier species.. who didn't yet master the making of tools.. only used say rocks for certain things.. then after 1000's of years, learned to place sharp rocks on the end of sticks to create spears.
Then Harnessed the power of fire.. etc..

What I want to ask, is there anyone here who does not believe this ?

now I know, if you want to go back farther, back to simple primates/monkeys, or go farther back to a lifeless planet, and ask the question HOW DID ALL START ? personally I'd buy several explanations.. GOD for one, Aliens for another, a meteorite crashing into the primordial oooze that was laced with bacteria or something that got life started.. these are the answers I don't know, and will except multiple explanation, but in my heart, I accept the evolution of man from a much more primitive creature, to what we are now.

Something had to get it all started...had to create something where there was once nothing...thats "God", "The Prime Mover", or "The Force", whatever ya choose to call it. The concept of "Intelligent Design" points to a creator...this is the intersection where evolution, or science, meets up with creationism. As I said earlier, the two theories need not be mutually exclusive. This intersection is called "Theistic Evolution"!

And my point is that the US is nothing but 300 million "Joe Blows on the street". This is what we are. How can we be smart and stupid at the same time collectively? We can't. That makes no statistical sense whatsoever. Most Americans believe in one God FWIW. The rest are a minority, at least at the moment

I believe in evolution
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How can we be smart and stupid at the same time collectively?
 

How can we be smart and stupid at the same time collectively? Easy there rherz just start at one end of 70th street and walk to the other and see how much it can change along the way. From looking a how many views this thread has it would appear this is a hot button for all :D so with that said may the sheep be to the right and the goats to the left ! Thank all of you that have posted on this thread it has been fun.
Isaac-Saxxon

Ok, point well taken. I guess I am biased and wanted to disagree with the writers. However I still stand by my point that man has not been able to replicate or prove the theory of macro evolution in the lab by creating life from scratch. Scientists can clone, mutate, and inbreed God's creatures all day long, but just try to make even a single cell organism out of basic elements like carbon, water, etc. There is absolutely zero evidence whatsover that this will ever be possible. Think about it. If new life cannot be created by intelligent beings using todays technology, then how did new life pop up on earth with no life on a sterile planet to begin with? Evolution offers no explaination for that. If we ever are able to create life, all that would prove is that it takes a VERY intelligent being to do it. Which supports the notion of "creation" by high intelligent beings with that ability, more than supporting the notion of a random "lightning strike" creating an amoeba or algae out of inanimate random elements for the very first time.

The same thing could be said about the "Big Bang" theory. I believe in the Big Bang, but what happened before the big bang? Nobody knows. Where did matter come from originally to begin with? Energy cannot be created or distroyed, only tranformed from one state to another. Where did the original storehouse of energy in the universe come from? Only God knows.

Agreed, I'll buy the Big Bang Theory, but what the heck was there before that ? I wonder what is beyond our Universe, supposedly the Universe is still expanding ? or did they find that it is shrinking now ? regardless, what' on the other side ??

too early in the day for such heady issues :eek:

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