Yes well that's what happens when you have two apparent idiots who take statements out of context then jump to conclusions.

I can agree with that assessment 100%....however, feelings of pride and joy are not exclusive to Christians, or parents and certainly don't suggest the intervention or presence of an omnipotent being....

"Scientology" has nothing to do with Science....

I do believe I have read the posts of the sickest human
 

and that would be you...........Brainsmasher. I have read this thread a couple of times since last night to be sure I did not miss anything. I wanted to be sure I was very clear on everyone's position. The thing I took away most from this is that you apparently feel that you just want to argue with anything and everything that anyone says. You are determined no matter what that you are not going to believe in God. I pity you for choosing this road, but hope that one day you will change your mind. I do believe and know that there will continue to be many times for you to make the decision to take up the cross and follow!

Above all though I feel so sad for you. Your life has most likely been full of hate, sadness, bitterness, evil, and so much hurt that you feel the need to turn it around on others. You have chosen this board and venue as one source to lash out as others. I can't help but wonder in what other ways have you lashed out? Is that perhaps the crime you've been accused of? Did it hurt someone? At what point will you begin to really take a good hard look in the mirror and see the self destruction here and realize what's really going on? All of these people here apparently, though they do seem to be tough on you at times, do care what happens to you. Most of them are probably praying for you. I will. I hope that you can find a place within yourself, your life and spend the same energy that you spend spitting venom and turn it into good. Turn that hurt and anger and defensive hostile nature over to "our higher power" God and see what can happen in your life. It looks like you've truly got nothing to lose and a whole lot to gain. There is wisdom to be learned from Isaac, and others. Try to do so and may God bless you and be with you.

Welcome to SBLive! there Texasbelle. Always glad to hear from someone new. :)

Welcome to SBLive! Texasbelle! Please don't judge Brain too harshly.

I am not saying that I totally agree with his opinions, but many of us don't agree with each other at times and some of us get so caught up in a debate that we let our proprieties slide. You can't take it personally as this applies to all of us as members of a forum. Besides that, a person with different (or even a radical) opinions often gives us perspective on our own. Why else would we be motivated to ponder our opinions without those who didn't share them?

I would think that if someone dislikes God as much as Brainsmash does + This is one nation under God for which it stands + The nation's dollar states In God We Trust = Brainsmash doesn't want to part of this nation....


A+B+C= X


What's holding you back from the necessary conclusion?:peace:

Nobody likes to be miserable, they usually go to a more comfortable existence

I think this equation can be proven with fact and science!!!

I may have missed a few posts, but has BrainSmasher admitted to hating God? Or has he merely stated that he doesn't believe in God. There is a difference.

I don't think BrainSmasher hates God I really feel he doesn't believe in him but really only he can answer this one. I am going by all the postings he posted. He claimed to be a confirmed catholic so I don't know.

Welcome aboard Texasbelle
 

I agree with your post. :clap: Sir Brain will not ever "admit" he is wrong. I am sure you will feel his flames soon as he reads this post. He will show no quarter just because you are female. He seems to like being the goat and that is ok because it is all about "choice" is it not Brain. Not all souls are not saved and as I have said in other post he has had to drink the dregs of the dark side to long and maybe like ole Darth before the end he will recant so never count that out. I hope that you will post more we need a few female voices on this page at this time there is Scarlett and Isabella both very nice ladies. I think it is about time for the Brain to punch out and get home to post so folks hang on to your hat there are many things headed toward the fan. :eek: :eek:
Isaac

I never said brainsmash hated God. If you review my reply again, I said he dislikes God. There is a big difference in hate and dislike......:nono:

However, I think you agree he does not like God, since he does not acknowledge his existence. Reminds me of pres. Iran and the Holocaust

There are cries from the gallery for mercy for BSr
 

I sure do not know if Bull **** boy hates God but from his post he is anti Christian which in my opinion is very close. Anime it is good to see a moderate come from the gallery to help the boy he sure could use some help. He is living in a world of rules that can not be broken and faith is for fools :rolleyes: There is physical truth to be found but like any other info it too is part of the construct and there for would be debunked by the nay sayer no matter how true it is. I say show him no quarter as he has done to the people that have tried to be nice to him. I think it is more like this here Sir Neo -- Bull + **** = Smash Brain and he aint the sharpest tool in the thread :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Isaac

First of all, its not MY way, thats just the way it is. Catholics are considered Christians. Have been for quite some time now. I had nothing to do with it. Why did you bother completing the rituals to earn the title if you dont hold the doctrine to be true? Oh, I know, its because youre speaking in tenses, right? Stop with the semantics already. You've done such a thorough job of muddying the waters that its no longer clear where you stand. Congradulations on your blithering idiocy!

"Mother nature has met her superior"? Yeah right, thats why Katrina and Rita kicked our asses, because man is superior. You've been taking those smart pills again, havent ya?

As for suicide, everyone thinks its a sin, but as far as I know, only Catholics believe its unredeemable.

And "atheism" is NOT Christian specific. Look it up. "A"theistic means non theistic, just as "a"moral means not moral.

Woah, we've almost crowned a new top thread again. SBLive! is jumping this month.

Anywho, I'm with Al on that one. Mother Nature is still, by far, superior to man. Not only the hurricanes, but consider the Indian Ocean Tsunami of 2004, each devastating to mankind. Mankind is still, very much, under Mother Nature's rules.

As far as suicide goes, my views on the topic may sound somewhat harsh, but I consider suicide the coward's way out. Suicide, much of the time, is caused by a person's inability to find hope. The problem here is that we are always the source of our own hope. Our ability to stand up and keep going is, in a way, its own source of hope. Only when a person has willingly convinced him/herself that all hope is lost, does suicide become an option. This is the foolsmate.

I must disagree. Suicide is oftentimes a merciful, dignified release from needless agony and suffering and a kindness to the survivors and heirs. A person in the last stages of a chronic, terminal illness has usually reached the point where they accept and even welcome the release and relief that death brings. Not to mention the fact that the depletion of a family's savings helps absolutely nobody.

I understand your position there and situations like that are why I said "much of the time" and not "always." Cases like that are, indeed, different than common suicide. However, they also carry a sense of hopelessness with them as well. If you had such an illness as you describe, would you not feel hopeless this way?

My family's experience with Suicide
 

I think if you have never experienced first hand a loved one experiencing mental illness and walked down the road with them and then the subsequent loss of that person to suicide then it is very hard to really make an adequate judgement on suicide.

On September 22, 2006 I lost my mom to suicide. I was raised by a Christian mother, a strong woman, who taught me everything. She raised me to be a strong person, think for myself, taught me life skills, how to be a good mother, etc. I never, ever once in all of my 39 years ever considered my mother to be a weak person or a coward. She never walked away from anything. However, there was a point and I will now never know what it was when everything changed. She changed and for why we will never know. I can only guess. Maybe it was the surgery she had four months prior to the suicide that she couldn't seem to recover from, maybe it was some unknown effect of anesthesia on her brain that sent her into a depression,or what? I will never know. I do know this: Her family fought like hell to help her. My mom fought like hell to save herself, but when a person becomes that sick physically and mentally there is just this place in them that you and they can not reach. I never thought it would be possible that I would ever have to say these words. I never thought I would have to experience it with my mom. I can think of others I might have, but not my strong mom. You just never, ever know what curveball you are going to get thrown and you never know why it gets thrown.

I will give you all these few warnings when discussing suicide or encountering it within your family : 1)Don't judge these people and call them cowards. They are not. They are sick and need help. 2) Don't think that doctors are going to help. There are very few truly compassionate doctors out there who will truly care about you and your family like their own. My mom in the two weeks before her suicide told 4 doctors she intended to commit suicide. By law, those four doctors should have committed her to the hospital, none of them did. I begged one of them to do so, she refused to do it because she just "didn't see the need". 3)Be dogmatic when trying to get help for your family member. They truly do get to a point where they are incapable of helping themselves and thinking for themselves. 4)Don't leave them alone once they threaten even for a moment, because it only takes that moment.

Now I say all of this and tell you my story because it is hard to see that people think suicide was the easy way out and my mom might have chosen it because she just didn't want to help herself. She wanted to help herself and she would have had she been capable. Her family could have helped her more had the physicians that we took her to done their job. You can not possibly know the devastation of suicide and mental illness until you have truly walked down that road.

Actually, in typical Christian fashion, you couldn't be farther from the truth. You have made a completely inaccurate assumption and accusation when you could have simply asked my opinion.

You provide undeniable proof of the existence of your god and I'll believe. Popular opinion is not proof and a book full of hearsay is not proof. Try again.

This is downright laughable. Not being Christian doesn't mean I have suffered, it means I'm not a gullible little twit like you.

I did not mean to offend with my opinions of suicide. My apologies if it did offend. However, I have known people who committed suicide. We dealt with suicides on a suprisingly regular basis when I was in the military and every person was trained on how to recognize them and what should be done if one of our own exhibited such behavior. I agree, sickness is part of the picture. But sickness alone does not lead to suicide.

While in the military, it was not uncommon for some kid to get a taste of the hard-working life in the U.S. military and hate it so much that they try to escape it before they are even out of A-school. Knowing all too well what will become of them if they desert the military, they are left with suicide. This type of suicide is certainly a cowardly type that is based on hopelessness. As harsh as this label may be, stressing it so does indeed motivate some to reconsider against suicide. Conversely, telling a suicidal person how sick they are and how much help they need, may only worsen their desperation.

Of course, these cases are somewhat individual. It depends on the person really.

As per the typical christian. You couldn't be farther from the truth. You have made a 100% incorrect assumption and that has lead you to a 100% inaccurate accusation.....one wonders if this is how the "witches" of Salem felt at the hands of the Christians.

Simply put, I don't believe in the existence of your god, therefore I can't "hate" your god. Do you "hate" Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster?

Well at least one Christian doesn't have to lie to make his point.

The sad part is this guy is practically still a kid....what's your excuse Neo?

I would certainly agree that hopelessness is a big factor in the taking of one's own life. Many cases are indeed hopeless, so its understandable to feel that way.

Well, I'm not going to wade through the rest of the bull**** replying to individuals post. All I can say is you Bible beaters should get a hobby that takes you out of the house occassionally.

Maybe if you got out and enjoyed life a little more you wouldn't dream so much of suicide and the glorious afterlife......

TWIT?????????????????????????? I think not Brainsmashr. But you have proven my point that you are a mean and evil spirited person. It's so sad for you.

Man! Is this guy Brain a pinhead or what? Looks like our lapsed catholic is done lettin out mouthfarts for the day.

Since you seem to think your opinion matters.....

Exactly why ARE you trying to catch flies?

Or maybe I've come to the conclusion that the intelligent folks here have already admitted all they have is faith and the rest are to stupid and close minded to even see the truth.

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water
 

He is back. The Anti Christ is among us. "Is this the man (Ish) " or just one of his mindless minions ? Please tell us what it is you do have faith in and if not faith then what is your take on how we got here and where we are going or are you just like any democrat just tear it down with no plan to explain a better way ? Do you like the ACLU ? These questions when answered will tell us something about what you do believe. Step up to the plate Brain Boy.
Isaac

I already told you what I believe. It's called science, shut-up and pay attention if you want to have a discussion so I don't have to waste time and resources repeating myself for the slow kids among us.

As for the ACLU, I believe in seperation of church and State, but that certainly doesn't make me a fan of the ACLU. Of course, I fail to see why you even asked the question since it's only a matter of time before you incorporate them into the every growing lie. Heck, it's even been rumored that I hate fictional beings now....

"The truth"? I can see the "truth" just fine. The "truth" is that not only are you blind, youre willfully stupid. Thats no way to go thru life, boy. Creation itself is proof of God's existence.

I suppose you could feel hopeless.. or on the other hand, you could feel empowered, by choosing your own time and place ??

I'm not much on "Suicide", but lying on your death bed, for me , is a different set of circumstances.

Evolution is proof that "creation" is a lie.

Get used to it, boy.

Evolution and creation are NOT mutually exclusive, boy.

Who said they were exclusive, geritol.....after 2007 years one would expect you to have perfected the lie....but it's still just a lie.

"A lie"? Says who? You? The lapsed catholic?

I never said you hated God so can that BSr
 

You show how stupid you are with your ass hole comments about science. You are placing you chip on the science only line you do have some of it because science proves the Bible is the real deal. Maybe you have watched to much anime and the dark underworld they live in. Maybe just a chemical imbalance that you can not help. Ever see a doctor about that :laugh:
Isaac

I never said you hated God so can that BSr
 

You show how stupid you are with your ass hole comments about science. You are placing you chip on the science only line you do have some of it because science proves the Bible is the real deal. Maybe you have watched to much anime and the dark underworld they live in. Maybe just a chemical imbalance that you can not help. Ever see a doctor about that :laugh:
Isaac

Hey Texasbelle check your email :D

Let me amend that to read "lapsed catholic murder suspect".

Texasbelle, sorry for your loss. have lost my share of family members as well.
you mentioned a recent surgery your mother had that may have introduced these 'thoughts'. I can only say, that my own mother has been through a couple of very intense surgeries. And some of those did take some time to get over. And I do remember my mother being quite down and out about it. The surgery and the time in intensive care, and amounts of pain medicine, certainly took it's toll. Very glad to say she is doing fine at this time. I do remember it being some very 'dark' times however.

The overwhelming LACK of evidence in existence to support your opinion.