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sbl_admin 05-07-2007 11:32 AM

Toddler falls from a moving SUV
 
A toddler is listed in critical condition after falling from a moving SUV

piemaker720 05-07-2007 11:46 AM

What happen to car seat? Why was the window down or the door locked? Who were these bozos to let this happen. Anime, where is that stupid meter!

AnimeSpirit 05-07-2007 02:52 PM

I'm working on it. I have to keep recalibrating it so it can keep up with the ever-growing stupidity out there.

Pocahontas 05-07-2007 03:51 PM

I get so infuriated when I'm driving around and see children not in their child restraints!! There's usually a car full of adults and kids with no one wearing them! How is that logical??:nono: :nono:

joepole 05-07-2007 03:58 PM

We sometimes drive our two year old home from the pool (about 5 blocks) wrapped in a towel in her mother's lap instead of her car seat. Every once in a while someone will see us in the parking lot and make a face like we had the kid tied to the bumper. My wife won't let me give those people (I say "people" but 100% of the time it's women) the finger anymore.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-07-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
We sometimes drive our two year old home from the pool (about 5 blocks) wrapped in a towel in her mother's lap instead of her car seat. Every once in a while someone will see us in the parking lot and make a face like we had the kid tied to the bumper. My wife won't let me give those people (I say "people" but 100% of the time it's women) the finger anymore.

Joe you should listen to your wife more often. So five blocks from indoor tennis do you play joe ? You know Joe I get mad at females too but I would never mess with them because joe they might have a husband or boy friend that might come kick your butt or be married to a cop and just your tag number and they will be at your nice home looking for you :eek: and as close to the hood as you live that could be real bad :nono:

Pocahontas 05-07-2007 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
We sometimes drive our two year old home from the pool (about 5 blocks) wrapped in a towel in her mother's lap instead of her car seat. Every once in a while someone will see us in the parking lot and make a face like we had the kid tied to the bumper. My wife won't let me give those people (I say "people" but 100% of the time it's women) the finger anymore.

I read a stat once that said most fatal car accidents occur within 5 miles of ones home! You and your wife would have a hard time forgiving yourselves if your child died due to not being in a carseat. Common sense! It's alright to get the carseat wet!!!!:(

joepole 05-07-2007 04:37 PM

That stat is meaningless at best and misleading at worst. What % of total driving is done within five miles of home?

Pocahontas 05-07-2007 04:41 PM

What is your reasoning for your child not being in the carseat??

piemaker720 05-07-2007 04:58 PM

Pocahontas, he has no reason. He just stated his wife won't even let him show other women his IQ [which must be 1]. Sounds like we already know he has no reason. They say more accidents happen close to home than far away. If he goes 5 blocks that is enough time for anything to happen.

joepole 05-07-2007 05:02 PM

Because we're only going a few blocks and don't want to get the car seat wet for no benefit.

Texasbelle 05-07-2007 05:05 PM

So what you are saying is that you would rather risk your precious child's life than get the car seat wet?

I think that qualifies both you and your wife as some of the most foolish people in the city. Hats off to you! You've won the SB Stupid Award of the Day!:clap: :clap: :clap:

joepole 05-07-2007 06:03 PM

Yes, I would. All people unnecessarily risk their childrens' lives for convenience and/or fun. If my goal in life were to make the world as safe as possible for my kid she would spend 24/7 housed in some sort of underground bunker. There is almost 0% chance I'm going to get into an accident that will result in the death of my child in those five blocks so it's worth not having to clean the carseat.

Do you let your child out of the house without a helmet on? What if a meteorite hit them? Do they carry at all times a snakebite kit? Scorpion antivenin? Bullet-proof vest?

Sheba 05-07-2007 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
Yes, I would. All people unnecessarily risk their childrens' lives for convenience and/or fun. If my goal in life were to make the world as safe as possible for my kid she would spend 24/7 housed in some sort of underground bunker. There is almost 0% chance I'm going to get into an accident that will result in the death of my child in those five blocks so it's worth not having to clean the carseat.

Do you let your child out of the house without a helmet on? What if a meteorite hit them? Do they carry at all times a snakebite kit? Scorpion antivenin? Bullet-proof vest?

Helmets for meteorites and snakebite kits are not mandated by law. On the other hand, carseats are. Kinda reminds me of the commercial where the lady doesn't want to wrinkle her dress, so she doesn't wear her safety belt. Next scene shows her in a wheel chair & her clothes are forever wrinkled.

Somethings are not worth the risks - a wet carseat would be one of those!

Texasbelle 05-07-2007 06:38 PM

Joe, you are a selfish stupid parent if you believe that. Just last week a precious lady was killed driving home just a few blocks from her mother in laws house to her house in Southwest Shreveport by a drunk driver. She was driving in a nice, normally quiet neighborhood. But guess what???????????? Another driver, who was drunk, was traveling through the same neighborhood drunk, hit her head on, and killed her.

If it happened to her, it could happen to you. It could happen anywhere, any time. No, I don't carry a snake bite kit with me, but I have taught my children that to watch where they walk. I have taught them to obey they laws. They are for their safety. I put them in their car seat from the moment they came home from the hospital and they have been in that or a seat belt ever since. I don't have the right to play with their safety. Neither do you just because you think they odds are in your favor. Well, they odds can always shift.

rhertz 05-07-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
We sometimes drive our two year old home from the pool (about 5 blocks) wrapped in a towel in her mother's lap instead of her car seat. Every once in a while someone will see us in the parking lot and make a face like we had the kid tied to the bumper. My wife won't let me give those people (I say "people" but 100% of the time it's women) the finger anymore.

On special occations, (usually a vacation) I will by my kids a coffee at *$'s. Onlookers stare at me and act like I was giving drugs to children. They forget about all the caffiene in soda pop I guess.... But nowadays one of the worse things you can do is to spank your child in public (child beater!)

When I was a kid, us kids used to ride in the back bed of a pickup holding on to the "headache rack" for dear life. Sitting down can get your tail bone broken if you hit a bump....

Isaac-Saxxon 05-07-2007 07:18 PM

Joe your getting your butt tore up here. These nice ladies have children and maternal instinct is kicking in. You are wrong here Sir :nono: I have see photos of your beautiful children and there should be nothing in this world that you would not do to protect them as much as you can anytime any place. My hats off to the ladies you can not work this one out with a abacus:nono: :nono: You kids do not have the choice you and your wife do !!

joepole 05-07-2007 07:19 PM

>No, I don't carry a snake bite kit with me, but I have taught my children that to watch where they walk. I have taught them to obey they laws. They are for their safety. I put them in their car seat from the moment they came home from the hospital and they have been in that or a seat belt ever since.

So what you're saying is you weigh the inconvenience against the potential risks and then act accordingly? Me, too.

> I don't have the right to play with their safety.

Sure you do, you're their parent.

>Neither do you just because you think they odds are in your favor. Well, they odds can always shift.

So I guess I shouldn't take them to the pool at all, then? They're safer at home locked in their closets, after all. Only a reckless and careless parent would needlessly subject their child to the dangers of the outside world for no reason other than convenience or fun.

Texasbelle 05-07-2007 07:25 PM

Actually if you want to be such a wisea**, I don't need to carry a snake bite kit, Daddy Belle is a doctor!!!!!!!!!!!Does that make you feel better? We have our own built-insnakebite-kit-live-in-the-house right here if you know what I mean!

No, I don't have the right to play with their safety. God entrusted me with these precious beautiful children to love, nurture, and protect. Until they are old enough to make wise decisions and think rationally for themselves I have to do it for them. Choosing to be unsafe in a vehicle is something they have no say over so I have to think for them and know that they should be as safe as possible in that car.

You can try and justify your poor choices here with us all you want but should something ever happen on that short car ride home, you will wish you had listen because the guilt you will feel will make your life not worth living.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-07-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
>No, I don't carry a snake bite kit with me, but I have taught my children that to watch where they walk. I have taught them to obey they laws. They are for their safety. I put them in their car seat from the moment they came home from the hospital and they have been in that or a seat belt ever since.

So what you're saying is you weigh the inconvenience against the potential risks and then act accordingly? Me, too.

> I don't have the right to play with their safety.

Sure you do, you're their parent.

>Neither do you just because you think they odds are in your favor. Well, they odds can always shift.

So I guess I shouldn't take them to the pool at all, then? They're safer at home locked in their closets, after all. Only a reckless and careless parent would needlessly subject their child to the dangers of the outside world for no reason other than convenience or fun.

Joe you seem to like the idea of locking your kids up. Choice right Joe :rolleyes:

joepole 05-07-2007 07:27 PM

>there should be nothing in this world that you would not do to protect them as much as you can anytime any place

That's absurd. If I followed that principle they'd never go to school, never go outside, never eat anything other than formula, and never interact with any other human beings. Instead of being that kind of awful parent, I choose to take reasonable risks, same as every other parent in this forum (and every other parent on Earth).

rhertz 05-07-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
Actually if you want to be such a wisea**, I don't need to carry a snake bite kit, Daddy Belle is a doctor!!!!!!!!!!!Does that make you feel better? We have our own built-insnakebite-kit-live-in-the-house right here if you know what I mean!

I wanna know who sucks the venem?? (not me) I might donate some bone marrow but I ain't suckin no snake bite. Now where's that turkey baster run off to?? :D

joepole 05-07-2007 07:29 PM

>You can try and justify your poor choices here with us all you want but should something ever happen on that short car ride home, you will wish you had listen because the guilt you will feel will make your life not worth living.

How have my choices been poor? There has been a 0% injury/accident rate, I've been right 100% of the time.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-07-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
>You can try and justify your poor choices here with us all you want but should something ever happen on that short car ride home, you will wish you had listen because the guilt you will feel will make your life not worth living.

How have my choices been poor? There has been a 0% injury/accident rate, I've been right 100% of the time.

What is funny about that :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: JoePOLE right 100% of the time :rolleyes:

Texasbelle 05-07-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
I wanna know who sucks the venem?? (not me) I might donate some bone marrow but I ain't suckin no snake bite. Now where's that turkey baster run off to?? :D

Rhertz, you need to be more up to date on your first aid skills. They don't suck snake bites anymore big boy! Just put on a tournaquet and mosey on over to the nearest ER. Speaking of snakes, T'belle almost stepped on a copperhead last night while weeding her flower beds! You probably heard me screaming all the way into Shreveport.:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

piemaker720 05-07-2007 07:42 PM

Jo, I am not saying you are a bad parent for taking your kid swimming, or playing ball, or any other kid enjoyable activity. My hat is off to you for that. They are kids, they need to socialize and learn to be in civilization. But as far as the car seat, don't hand me that line of bull****! If you do not want to get the car seat wet then put some towels in the seat to keep it dry. The excuse you don't want to get the seat wet sounds like the ramblings of a lazy person.:rolleyes:

Pocahontas 05-07-2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by piemaker720
Jo, I am not saying you are a bad parent for taking your kid swimming, or playing ball, or any other kid enjoyable activity. My hat is off to you for that. They are kids, they need to socialize and learn to be in civilization. But as far as the car seat, don't hand me that line of bull****! If you do not want to get the car seat wet then put some towels in the seat to keep it dry. The excuse you don't want to get the seat wet sounds like the ramblings of a lazy person.:rolleyes:

All this said and done it sure does get down to being lazy and careless parents over the idea of getting the carseat wet!! It will dry soon enough!
Just use a towel like Piemaker suggested!!:nono:

rhertz 05-07-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
Rhertz, you need to be more up to date on your first aid skills. They don't suck snake bites anymore big boy! Just put on a tournaquet and mosey on over to the nearest ER. Speaking of snakes, T'belle almost stepped on a copperhead last night while weeding her flower beds! You probably heard me screaming all the way into Shreveport.:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

Better hope I'm not around if someone gets hurt! ;) No telling what I might do.

Actually I did save a women's life once at an accident scene, or so the front page of the newspaper said. Rather it was true or not, being a "hero" (for a day or whatever) is not at all what somone might think it would be like. Ever since that experience, I have always felt that the true heros in this world are mostly anonymous. Well it's not like the media ever gets it right is all I'm saying. They want a juicy story. yeah I said it, the media is/are drama queens..... :D

Sheba 05-07-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas
All this said and done it sure does get down to being lazy and careless parents over the idea of getting the carseat wet!! It will dry soon enough!
Just use a towel like Piemaker suggested!!:nono:

I'm with Pocahontas & Piemaker - towels are easy!!

joepole 05-07-2007 10:26 PM

You know what's even easier than a towel and ends up being the exact same injury/death-wise? Letting the kid sit in my wife's lap for 90 seconds.

AnimeSpirit 05-07-2007 10:46 PM

You think that now, but I'm betting you won't be singing that tune the first time someone slams the side of your car and your kid gets killed because he/she wasn't in a car seat.

joepole 05-07-2007 11:00 PM

Yeah, that's going to happen. The streets of Spring Lake are practically littered with baby corpses from all the horrific traffic accidents.

People are always so sure "It could happen to me!" and then when it never does they realize that they were worried for nothing.

AnimeSpirit 05-07-2007 11:08 PM

You're the poster boy for safety and wisdom, Joe.

rhertz 05-07-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
Yeah, that's going to happen. The streets of Spring Lake are practically littered with baby corpses from all the horrific traffic accidents.

People are always so sure "It could happen to me!" and then when it never does they realize that they were worried for nothing.

joe todays media propagates every news story from around the world. It has led to a certain amount of paranoia in todays society IMHO. Some of that is probably healthy paranoia and some is not IMHO. I happen to agree with you in this case. Zero tolerance is one thing, but math is another. I have a wreck about every 1 in 500,000 miles. The odds of any one mile being "the one" is slim. As I have said before, I would not want to live in a 100% safe society. That would be like living in the matrix or something, eh Isaac?

rhertz 05-07-2007 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit
You're the poster boy for safety and wisdom, Joe.

Assuming that is sarcasm, I since a bit more altruism in joe and his posts than that. Each of us has an opinion so to speak.

Some of us word our posts to be more popular in the community. Some word our posts to aggrevate the community. ;) Some like to shock and awe the community, and others shoot for a laugh. We all make our points. Some agree and some don't.

Me, I like to gross people out with Pug stories.. Did I mention the time the Pug ate a piece of ribbon at Christmas? Know how we found out? There was this little string thing hanging out her butt. Now who wants to pull that out! We used to have the "pull the string" booth at the carnival, but Pugs take it to a new level! ;)

BrainSmashR 05-08-2007 06:41 AM

Statically speaking, the majority of car crashes happen near the home, not 50 miles away on vacation. In other words your more likely to get your child killed in the 5 blocks between your home and the pool than you would on I-20 headed to Dallas.

Furthermore over 240,000 children under the age of 16 are injured in car accidents every year and another 1,700 are killed.

and guess what joe:

Most accidents involving kids actually occur on local, residential roads during a routine trip to the day-care center, the grocery store, or the neighborhood park. That's why it's critical to take all the same precautions for a short drive that you'd take for a three-hour ride to Grandma's.

BrainSmashR 05-08-2007 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole
>No, I don't carry a snake bite kit with me, but I have taught my children that to watch where they walk. I have taught them to obey they laws. They are for their safety. I put them in their car seat from the moment they came home from the hospital and they have been in that or a seat belt ever since.

So what you're saying is you weigh the inconvenience against the potential risks and then act accordingly? Me, too.

No I think she saying over 240,000 people are NOT bitten by snakes every year (only 45,000) and an additional 1,700 don't die from their snake bite (the national average is less than 4 per year).

You line of reasoning is childish at best.

I'd suggest that any of you who know this man in real life contact child services immediately. You're not just being stupid and endangering the life of your child, joe, if he/she is under the age of 6 and 60 pounds, you're breaking the law too, probably with full knowledge of your actions and willfull intent to boot...

Texasbelle 05-08-2007 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
No I think she saying over 240,000 people are NOT bitten by snakes every year (only 45,000) and an additional 1,700 don't die from their snake bite (the national average is less than 4 per year).

You line of reasoning is childish at best.

I'd suggest that any of you who know this man in real life contact child services immediately. You're not just being stupid and endangering the life of your child, joe, if he/she is under the age of 6 and 60 pounds, you're breaking the law too, probably with full knowledge of your actions and willfull intent to boot...

Way to go Brain!!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

Pocahontas 05-08-2007 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole
Yeah, that's going to happen. The streets of Spring Lake are practically littered with baby corpses from all the horrific traffic accidents.

People are always so sure "It could happen to me!" and then when it never does they realize that they were worried for nothing.

It doesn't matter what neighborhood you live in! Surely you know accidents occur everywhere!

Isaac-Saxxon 05-08-2007 09:08 AM

Joe bend over and crack a smile :D you are getting a good spanking :clap:


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