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Morpheus 11-01-2007 09:54 AM

louisiana proteins
 
with the good debate on legislating smoking in the health section, i wonder what the general consensus is on louisiana proteins being shut down because it "stinks"?

Isaac-Saxxon 11-01-2007 10:03 AM

I think this horse has been whipped before. I think Monroe stinks much worse than Shreveport. I must say I would not want that plant near where I live and if they can not keep the smell down then they should move to Monroe where it would not even be noticed. :D

LateNight 11-01-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 23938)
with the good debate on legislating smoking in the health section, i wonder what the general consensus is on louisiana proteins being shut down because it "stinks"?

Same as a large chemical plant of some kind.. leaking contaminated water into the water supply, or leaking dangerous chemicals into the air.

Louisiana Protein's STINK was causing me HARM. Can't imagine what it did for the businesses close by.

I suppose the bigger question however.. should the city/state be allowed to "Regulate" such things.. who determines WHAT STINKS ? :)

I think it's more a matter of whether local businesses or the local public can prove if any damage has been done by being next to that smelly place has caused.. and whether or not it has caused them HARM.

Morpheus 11-01-2007 10:47 AM

but you see my point is that most people think it's okay to legislate business and industry, but not individuals. who has to foot the bill in court? is it the smokers that smoked all of those years? no, it's big tobacco who sold them those "cancer sticks".

I think it's been shown that cigarettes cause harm, and most of us agree that it stinks. So why is it not fair to legislate that?

LateNight 11-01-2007 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 23949)
but you see my point is that most people think it's okay to legislate business and industry, but not individuals. who has to foot the bill in court? is it the smokers that smoked all of those years? no, it's big tobacco who sold them those "cancer sticks".

I think it's been shown that cigarettes cause harm, and most of us agree that it stinks. So why is it not fair to legislate that?



And drinking alcohol kills brain cells etc etc.. Here's the deal.. assuming the tobacco company is up front.. ie COVERED IN WARNINGS that the stuff can cause this and that AND death.. I feel they are covered. You can't claim anymore you didn't know they were bad for you.

So.. who is the government to come between me and my tobacco dealer.
I should be free to enter into an agreement with anyone, any business, to buy their product. Be it, cigarettes, beer, a hooker, a drug dealer etc..

Morpheus 11-01-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LateNight (Post 23957)
And drinking alcohol kills brain cells etc etc.. Here's the deal.. assuming the tobacco company is up front.. ie COVERED IN WARNINGS that the stuff can cause this and that AND death.. I feel they are covered. You can't claim anymore you didn't know they were bad for you.

So.. who is the government to come between me and my tobacco dealer.
I should be free to enter into an agreement with anyone, any business, to buy their product. Be it, cigarettes, beer, a hooker, a drug dealer etc..

That would be fine if down the road on your deathbed you said, "I made my choices and I accept the consequences." But that's not what happens. When it comes to that, the "victim" will scream, "Save Me!". It's the government (taxpayers) that foot the bill.

Louisiana Proteins stinks, but does it really hurt anyone? Why should the government come between them and a paycheck?

LateNight 11-01-2007 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 23958)
That would be fine if down the road on your deathbed you said, "I made my choices and I accept the consequences." But that's not what happens. When it comes to that, the "victim" will scream, "Save Me!". It's the government (taxpayers) that foot the bill.

Not sure I see your point ? If you're talking about medicare and the like, I don't want my money going to pay for all that either.. but as far as that goes, I still don't want the Government going around trying to make us all safe, think I explained why already.

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 23958)
Louisiana Proteins stinks, but does it really hurt anyone? Why should the government come between them and a paycheck?

that's what I said. :)

Morpheus 11-01-2007 04:51 PM

Not just medicare, but more importantly the millions spent on people who need care who have no insurance of any kind, including medicare and medicaid. Ironically, these same people need care because they have made poor personal choices-like drugs, alcohol, smoking, and generally leading unhealthy high risk lifestyles.

LateNight 11-01-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus (Post 23978)
Not just medicare, but more importantly the millions spent on people who need care who have no insurance of any kind, including medicare and medicaid. Ironically, these same people need care because they have made poor personal choices-like drugs, alcohol, smoking, and generally leading unhealthy high risk lifestyles.


I hear where you are coming from.. but then at what point does the government start telling us WHAT TO EAT ? Some people don't eat healthy, are we going to start regulating that as well ???

Can't ride motorcycles because they are unsafe ?? I don't know what the answers are.. but regulating our daily lives, to save a few bucks in the end is no answer to me.

more regulations = bigger government = less freedom

Morpheus 11-01-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LateNight (Post 23961)
that's what I said. :)

Well I commend you then. I'm glad you're consistent in beliefs. Even though I don't entirely agree-I think we're on the same track.


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