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sbl_admin 04-18-2007 08:40 AM

Should A Person Be Denied A Pension For A Conviction?
 
Louisiana law doesn't allow the pensions of public workers convicted of felony crimes, such as bribery or stealing, to be taken away or reduced — something state Sen. Arthur J. Lentini, R-Metairie, unsuccessfully tried to change during the last regular legislative session.

Texasbelle 04-18-2007 08:54 AM

My belief is that if you as a public official are convicted of a felony then that person should be sentenced as any normal person for their crime. I believe to take away the pension perhaps which would continue to feed the family is not the right answer. They should be fined and that fine can come from the pension. Also, if you have been convicted of a felony you should never ever be allowed to run for office again. Joe Shine, perfect example, his crime should never have been pardoned and he should never have been allowed to run. Funniest thing..people re-elected him. How stupid is that. Even though oftentimes they don't, the ones in public office should be held to a higher regard for the laws of society and should set the example.

AnimeSpirit 04-18-2007 09:43 AM

With regard to elected officials, I agree. Convicted felons shouldn't be allowed to run for office. I hear felons aren't allowed to vote, so why should they be allowed to run for office. However, I think taking their pension over a felony charge is double-jeopardy. If you are convicted of a crime, the judge decides your punishment. If you serve that punishment, you should be square with the house. Let them keep their pensions.

joepole 04-18-2007 11:18 AM

Convicted felons aren't allowed to run for public office in Louisiana:

http://senate.legis.state.la.us/Docu...ctive%20Office

Isaac-Saxxon 04-18-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole
Convicted felons aren't allowed to run for public office in Louisiana:

http://senate.legis.state.la.us/Docu...ctive%20Office

Well joe once again you have said it all with your post. Let them keep their pension and pay their fines.

AnimeSpirit 04-18-2007 11:39 AM

This issue doesn't only refer to elected officials. It refer to public workers. This article was in reference to a fire chief who was busted for a murder-for-hire scheme. He wasn't elected, but does he still get his pension? I think he should.

Texasbelle 04-18-2007 11:49 AM

Duh people who are convicted of felonies are not allowed to run for office but if you recall Joe Shine got himself convicted of a felony and then pardoned of that felony by the governor and then ran for office and was re-elected. To me, that is just wrong.

Neo 04-18-2007 12:08 PM

I believe the portion they paid into retirement in entitled, however, the taxpayer portion should be forfeited. As the negative impact on the economy and their family,,, tough s***, that is what the job market and welfare is providing... opportunity and riding coat tails. As a private citizen that is what I would be told.


As a side analogy, why should the doctors that defrauded insurance companies and the government lose their license to practice, repay monies involved, and pay fines...

Sounds like public officials elected or not are above the law!

joepole 04-18-2007 12:11 PM

If you are pardoned then you are not technically "a convicted felon."

Texasbelle 04-18-2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo
I believe the portion they paid into retirement in entitled, however, the taxpayer portion should be forfeited. As the negative impact on the economy and their family,,, tough s***, that is what the job market and welfare is providing... opportunity and riding coat tails. As a private citizen that is what I would be told.


As a side analogy, why should the doctors that defrauded insurance companies and the government lose their license to practice, repay monies involved, and pay fines...

Sounds like public officials elected or not are above the law!

Hmm I do like the idea of the taxpayer portion being taken. Great idea. Now about the doctors. What are you saying? That you think their license should be taken or should not? Do you think that doctors are watched closely enough for this?

Texasbelle 04-18-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joepole
If you are pardoned then you are not technically "a convicted felon."

Joe I get that but you are missing the point or something. Should a public official be able to be pardoned of a felony where he was convicted of a crime such as bribery? To me he should not. Basically you slapped him on the hand and are freeing him to go out and do it again.

joepole 04-18-2007 12:33 PM

>Should a public official be able to be pardoned of a felony where he was convicted of a crime such as bribery?

Depends on the specific case. We have pardons for a reason.

Isaac-Saxxon 04-18-2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbelle
Joe I get that but you are missing the point or something. Should a public official be able to be pardoned of a felony where he was convicted of a crime such as bribery? To me he should not. Basically you slapped him on the hand and are freeing him to go out and do it again.

There are certain groups that prefer there elected officials to have a rap sheet :eek:

Neo 04-18-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbelle
Hmm I do like the idea of the taxpayer portion being taken. Great idea. Now about the doctors. What are you saying? That you think their license should be taken or should not? Do you think that doctors are watched closely enough for this?


I am saying that a doctors conviction carries a life sentence if a licence is revoked. If it that serious for one group, it should be that serious for all.

I believe it to be descrimination,,,, Ask Imus!

rhertz 04-18-2007 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joepole
Convicted felons aren't allowed to run for public office in Louisiana:

Until pardoned first.. Then it's ok...

(Edited - Sorry, I should read from the bottom up. you folks are going too fast. It's hard to keep up nowadays)


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