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katom34 05-14-2007 02:31 AM

real estate site question

I just got a new site through real estate web design they told me it takes time to gain rankings or even be listed on the search engines. is that true? please advise.


BrainSmashR 05-14-2007 07:17 AM

Yes it's true, and also dependent on the format of your site as well.

For instance, google doesn't do php very well so a vast majority of the information on my website is simply overlooked by one of the most popular browsers out there.

You could try submitting a sitemap to Google, which won't necessarily speed up the process of getting your site listed and ranked, but it will certainly go a long in making sure google indexes the majority of your content.


For instance, I have a family tree script I host online for my family in a directory on my server named tufat ( written 100% in php.....if you do a Google search for tufat, you won't find it. Even if you do a search for BrainSmashR and tufat, you still won't find it.

However, I could submit that as a link to google via a sitemap and it WOULD index that link and start returning the link (NOT the content of the directory, just the link) when people do searches.

joepole 05-14-2007 08:29 AM

PHP is processed server-side, the client (be it a web browser or a search crawler) never sees the code. It doesn't affect it indexibility. indexability? Is that even a word?

One thing to avoid, however, is something along the lines of /index.php?page_id=4 or somesuch. Give your pages descriptive URLs and titles: /availability.php or /new_listings.php.

Also avoid cookie-dependent pages. Both for the search engines and to avoid annoying people that link to you.

Truthfully, this topic is too large for a forum post/response chain. There are literally thousands of guides to this sort of thing that would do a better job than any of us could here.

LateNight 05-14-2007 08:54 AM

I also believed that the .php pages didn't do well for indexing by the search engines etc.. But I've been surprised by some of the Google searches I've done, that brought me right back here to SBLive!

a google search for shreveport+porn brings back an SBLive! hit in the TOP TEN :D

happy freakin' monday :peace:

AnimeSpirit 05-14-2007 09:51 AM

Though search engines don't like dynamic pages due to their rapidly changing content, they have been somewhat forced to swallow their pride and adapt in recent years because more and more people are using PHP scripts on their sites as well as PHP-based content management systems like Drupal and Joomla.

The key to getting good search rankings is still essentially the same as it was back in the day. Get LOTS and LOTS of content!!! You need like 100+ pages of pure content (not counting utility pages like privacy policy, terms of service, and contact us pages, though these pages are also important.) Google's algorithm also counts how many other sites link to your site. If you've got TONS of reciprocal links, then Google thinks your site is more important and places you higher in the index.

Speaking of reciprocal links, many search engines HATE redirect tags and do not count them as reciprocal links. Do not use them between yourself and external sites and try not to overuse them on your own site. Also, if you contact other sites to request a reciprocal link, make sure the link they provide leads STRAIGHT to your site and not through another page or function. Otherwise, it will do you no good.

Then there are some common sense issues like functionality. Make sure ALL of your graphics and links work. Check external links frequently to make sure they go to sites that are still functioning. Make sure all pages are working properly and do not display errors of any kind.

When designing your layout, pick one that gives you the opportunity to drop important keywords about your site frequently. Use the keywords and description META tags. Some search engines still use these tags in some form of another today. As for the rest of your pages, get your keywords as close to the top as possible and print them frequently throughout your site.

Do not use deceptive tactics to get search engines' attention like disguising text to match your background in order to flood the page with keywords. Do not use hidden links or fancy CSS trickery. Many of these were fun back in the day, but search engines will ban you these days.

Most search engines look for a robot.txt file in your root directory. This file is suppose to contain instructions on where the bot can go and where it can't go. If you don't have one, write one, especially if you have secure directories that you don't want indexed. Search Google for details on writing a robot.txt file.

Get familiar with your site statistics. I recommend using a webhost that gives you an Awstats script for you account. Webalizer is ok too if you can't get Awstats. This tells you how many people come to your site and when, what your most popular pages are, what search engines are crawling you, what people are querying the search engines for to get you, and what sites are sending traffic to you. This is all valuable data for the webmaster consider when determining what parts of the site to further develop and what parts are a flop.

If you have any further questions, feel free to contact me or check out this book.

Reference: Google Hacks, by Rael Dornfest

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