[piemaker720]

Now come on, there are different kinds of torture. The kind that is involuntary or there is voluntary. I can't talk bad about the voluntary because hey no one made you, this is where boxing comes in. Boxing is nothing but a voluntary @ss whipping, so be it. Then you got your kinky little bedroom ventures, again voluntary. But beating a child is involuntary and that is bad. So torture to me is anything that is done involuntary, against someone's will.