Texas governor stirs controversy

Isaac-Saxxon · 05-03-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by purpahurl

Why not. These aren't going to be the people causing trouble anyway, but they can sure stop it! "Those who are willing to give up their guns to make plows will soon be plowing for those who did not"

I know I would think twice about pulling my gun out if I thought everyone else around me had one too

LateNight · 05-03-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

I know I would think twice about pulling my gun out if I thought everyone else around me had one too

that's an interesting point.. I saw an editorial cartoon on that the other day. basically it was like, someone yelled "Gun!" and then EVERYONE pulled out their guns and started shooting.. but didn't know who it was they were supposed to be shooting at....

now maybe that's not realistic ? or maybe it is.. in a perfect world, everyone could just open up on the idiot who started shooting in the first place

BrainSmashR · 05-03-2007, 04:49 PM

Well you guys are basically ignoring history when you make these suggestions.

If you recall, once upon a time it was fairly common for men to openly carry firearms.....why do you think every civilized nation in the world now has laws against this type of behavior?

Here's a hint, it's not because the crime rate went down.....

LateNight · 05-03-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Well you guys are basically ignoring history when you make these suggestions.

If you recall, once upon a time it was fairly common for men to openly carry firearms.....why do you think every civilized nation in the world now has laws against this type of behavior?

Here's a hint, it's not because the crime rate went down.....

Don't take my comment the wrong way.. it's not that I'm against the idea at all.. If there had been some other folks carrying legal firearms around at Virginia Tech, fewer lives could have been lost. If that idiot could have been gunned down... I just thought it was an interesting point.

BrainSmashR · 05-03-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LateNight

Don't take my comment the wrong way.. it's not that I'm against the idea at all.. If there had been some other folks carrying legal firearms around at Virginia Tech, fewer lives could have been lost. If that idiot could have been gunned down... I just thought it was an interesting point.

Yeah, the problem is that when everyone carried a gun, lot's of people got shot for stupid **** like snoring to loud, not just mass murder.

How can you say fewer lives would have been lost when only 1 man had a gun as opposed to 100 people having a gun, when our own nations history tells the exact opposite story?

joepole · 05-03-2007, 05:52 PM

>why do you think every civilized nation in the world now has laws against this type of behavior

Correct or not, that's not a legit line of reasoning, "Everybody else is doing it" means nothing. Almost every civilized nation in the world has socialized medicine, as well.

joepole · 05-03-2007, 05:56 PM

>How can you say fewer lives would have been lost when only 1 man had a gun as opposed to 100 people having a gun, when our own nations history tells the exact opposite story?

Because it's a reasonable assumption that none of the other likely-to-be-armed students wanted to go on a murderous rampage and it's a logical conclusion that if any other student had killed Cho before he could finish fewer lives would have been lost.

BrainSmashR · 05-03-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

>why do you think every civilized nation in the world now has laws against this type of behavior

Correct or not, that's not a legit line of reasoning, "Everybody else is doing it" means nothing. Almost every civilized nation in the world has socialized medicine, as well.

If it's not a legit line of reasoning, why do you think I'm trying to say that?

More people with guns always equals more murders, not less. That's why most nations have some type of gun laws, not because they want to be like their neighbor!?!?!?!?!?

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05-03-2007, 04:49 PM	#3
BrainSmashR Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Natchitoches Age: 54 Posts: 1,090 Rep Power: 0	Well you guys are basically ignoring history when you make these suggestions. If you recall, once upon a time it was fairly common for men to openly carry firearms.....why do you think every civilized nation in the world now has laws against this type of behavior? Here's a hint, it's not because the crime rate went down.....

05-03-2007, 05:52 PM	#6
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 281	>why do you think every civilized nation in the world now has laws against this type of behavior Correct or not, that's not a legit line of reasoning, "Everybody else is doing it" means nothing. Almost every civilized nation in the world has socialized medicine, as well.

05-03-2007, 05:56 PM	#7
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 281	>How can you say fewer lives would have been lost when only 1 man had a gun as opposed to 100 people having a gun, when our own nations history tells the exact opposite story? Because it's a reasonable assumption that none of the other likely-to-be-armed students wanted to go on a murderous rampage and it's a logical conclusion that if any other student had killed Cho before he could finish fewer lives would have been lost.

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