Fla. deputy suspended

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by piemaker720

When a person is dealing with a life or death situation they don't think straight. We don't know if the father drove hisself.

The video shows her telling the deputy that her father had suffered a heart attack and had driven himself to the emergency room.

From your first link....

Now I agree 100% the girl probably was not thinking straight, hence my comment about her getting behind the wheel in such an erratic state. However, that "shouldn't" excuse her for speeding and "running" from the police in a non emergency situation.

[joepole]

I should be excused for my bad behavior because I wasn't thinking straight.


Granted, I wasn't thinking straight because I had 14 beers.

[piemaker720]

Even if he did drive himself that doesn't make it any less important. My father 2 years ago drove hisself to the hosiptal to have surgery and the whole time he was having a stroke and did not know it. His surgery was cancelled because of the stroke. Just this past Christmas he was driving and was having a heart attack. This was on a Friday. Saturday they transported him to a town 1 hour away. They found out 4 arteries were clogged. They worried about him having another heart attack in the ambulance. When he got there they had to heart by-pass on him. Do you think I worried about speed when i was 2 hours away and not knowing what was happening.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by piemaker720

Even if he did drive himself that doesn't make it any less important.

I didn't say it wasn't important, I sad the girl wasn't in an emergency situation nor was anyone in her car.

My father 2 years ago drove hisself to the hosiptal to have surgery and the whole time he was having a stroke and did not know it. His surgery was cancelled because of the stroke. Just this past Christmas he was driving and was having a heart attack. This was on a Friday. Saturday they transported him to a town 1 hour away. They found out 4 arteries were clogged. They worried about him having another heart attack in the ambulance. When he got there they had to heart by-pass on him. Do you think I worried about speed when i was 2 hours away and not knowing what was happening.

Do you think shaving 30 minutes off your arrival time made any difference in the health of your father or did you just needlessly endanger your life and the life of anyone else who just happened to be sharing the road with you that day?

Like I said, I understand what you are saying, and under the same circumstances I'm sure my actions would be identical, but that doesn't make it right or legal.

[LateNight]

Let us not forget... that cops hear ALL SORTS OF STORIES as to why someone is speeding.. ALL DAY LONG. She could have saved them all some time by pulling over immediately.. and calmly telling her story.

Not to mention, no matter the cirumstance, driving like a maniac, only puts others in jeapordy.

[LateNight]

Originally Posted by piemaker720

Even if he did drive himself that doesn't make it any less important. My father 2 years ago drove hisself to the hosiptal to have surgery and the whole time he was having a stroke and did not know it. His surgery was cancelled because of the stroke. Just this past Christmas he was driving and was having a heart attack. This was on a Friday. Saturday they transported him to a town 1 hour away. They found out 4 arteries were clogged. They worried about him having another heart attack in the ambulance. When he got there they had to heart by-pass on him. Do you think I worried about speed when i was 2 hours away and not knowing what was happening.

I completely understand.. and under the same circumstance, I'd be driving like a bat out of hell as well. But I wouldn't drive so completely crazy as to risk injury to myself or others (hopefully) and if I cop tried to pull me over, it wouldn't do me any good to try and OUT RUN them. All you can hope for is to pull over immediately.. try to calmly tell your story, and hope and the cop is forgiving enough to let you go. But if you start cussin' out the cop, and acting irrational, they aren't going to care what your story is.

[AnimeSpirit]

I admit that peeling out of there out of impatience wasn't smart, but I also know cops CAN check the story out before jumping to conclusions. If the police don't have knowledge of the situation, they can call the hospital.

It's true they hear these excuses all the time, but they shouldn't blow them off as lies every single time. SOME of these stories are true, so they must check them out! Look into the woman's eyes and ask yourself if she is lying! If you can't tell, check it out yourself.

The cop is going to be suspended because he acted hastily and didn't do his job to serve the public properly.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

I admit that peeling out of there out of impatience wasn't smart, but I also know cops CAN check the story out before jumping to conclusions. If the police don't have knowledge of the situation, they can call the hospital.

1. It's not the job of the street cop to investigate the story of every or any perp.
2. verifying her story would have taken more time than accepting the ticket.

It's true they hear these excuses all the time, but they shouldn't blow them off as lies every single time. SOME of these stories are true, so they must check them out! Look into the woman's eyes and ask yourself if she is lying! If you can't tell, check it out yourself.

1. It's not the job of the street cop to investigate the story of every or any perp.
2. verifying her story would have taken more time than accepting the ticket.

The cop is going to be suspended because he acted hastily and didn't do his job to serve the public properly.

He's not being suspended for acting quickly or ignoring her excuse. He's being suspended for use of excessive force and apparently she has the bruises to prove it.

[AnimeSpirit]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

1. It's not the job of the street cop to investigate the story of every or any perp.
2. verifying her story would have taken more time than accepting the ticket.

It is his job to issue citations to and/or arrest legitimate perps, a label that is applied AFTER the cop ascertains the legitimacy of the crime. Street cops ARE required to hold minor investigations when the need arises in order to legitimize citations and arrests before making them. If a street cop receives a report of an intruder in your home, they must go and investigate before making any arrests.

Also, it would have been MOST quick if the cop would've just heard the words "emergency room" and escorted the woman there to legitimize her story before writing the stupid ticket.

[piemaker720]

The girl was wrong on somethings but to use excessive force is not. The article say the officer now knows it could have been handled differently. You can look in someone's eye and see despair or fear. That should have told the officer something, he is trained to look at people actions. Also there was no need to slam her against the car when she was pleading with the officer to let her see her dad. That just plain sounds heartless on the officer's behalf. Would he have wanted to see someone treat his child that way or would he hope that the officer has enough compasion to know the difference between trying to con an officer or being truthful about the situation.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

It is his job to issue citations to and/or arrest legitimate perps, a label that is applied AFTER the cop ascertains the legitimacy of the crime. Street cops ARE required to hold minor investigations when the need arises in order to legitimize citations and arrests before making them. If a street cop receives a report of an intruder in your home, they must go and investigate before making any arrests.

Radar gun clocked her speeding, there is no excuse where the law is concerned.

Also, it would have been MOST quick if the cop would've just heard the words "emergency room" and escorted the woman there to legitimize her story before writing the stupid ticket.

Or she could have obeyed the law, not endangered the lives of anyone else on the road, not gotten a speeding ticket, not been physically abused, and actually have seen her father that night instead of going to jail.

[piemaker720]

But that's what i'm saying we all would drive like a bat out of hell. It might not be right, I agree. You can drive a little faster without driving reckless. Why do you automatically say you are driving irrationally. if you are speeding to the hospital. As for my father 30 minutes could have made a difference if it didn't the ambulance would not have worried about his heart quitting before they got him there. Sure Iwas not in the ambulance but if I jacked around that could have been 30 minutes I might have had time with him. If a person is about to die they let the family stay with them. They don't seperate the family. No one knows that but the doctor, but if you don't know what is about to happen you will not be thinking straight. Why couldn't the officer offer to check it out for her on the radio, give her piece of mind. You never know when someone is going. The mind does wonders on a person during stress. Besides where the officer stopped her they were in the parking lot of the hosiptal. Why didn't the officer follow her in and check it out, then ticket her.

[piemaker720]

Also it tells the charges were dropped against the woman under the circunstances.