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Old 10-09-2006, 04:15 PM   #1
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How old do you think the universe is?

I read your comments and am curious. Using Earths measure of time, how old do you think the universe is? A simple answer, please, in round numbers.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:06 PM   #2
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How old ?

In short from what I have studied in the history books for the last 22 years
I think flesh man has been here 10-14000 years and as far as the universe
goes I dont know ? I was mistaken about how far carbon dating goes back
and there is a geoloical boundry its called uridium boundry. Spelling ? but thats
close, there is a line where nothing was living then the spawn of man.
That still does not tell me how old the planet and or universe is. Any ideas
I would love to hear ! I still dont think 6000 years for the whole universe is
in order at all. Thanks. Isaac-Saxxon
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:08 PM   #3
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From NASA's website

"Until recently, astronomers estimated that the Big Bang occurred between 12 and 14 billion years ago. To put this in perspective, the Solar System is thought to be 4.5 billion years old and humans have existed as a species for a few million years. Astronomers estimate the age of the universe in two ways: 1) by looking for the oldest stars; and 2) by measuring the rate of expansion of the universe and extrapolating back to the Big Bang; just as crime detectives can trace the origin of a bullet from the holes in a wall."

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101age.html

I understand their Big Bang statements, however I wonder what they base their statement "humans have existed as a species for a few million years". I guess that they are including "Lucy" type beings. (all hominids that is)

http://www.asu.edu/clas/iho/lucy.html#age

So when did Homo Sapien enter the picture? (from both a fossile and historic record?) Not our "ancestors" but "us"?
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:50 PM   #4
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I understand their Big Bang statements, however I wonder what they base their statement "humans have existed as a species for a few million years". I guess that they are including "Lucy" type beings. (all hominids that is)

http://www.asu.edu/clas/iho/lucy.html#age

So when did Homo Sapien enter the picture? (from both a fossile and historic record?) Not our "ancestors" but "us"?
Homo Erectus some 1.5 - 1 million years ago, Homo Sapiens some 1/2 a million years ago.

"Lucy" is an Australopithecus Ramidus .. some 3.2 million years ago. they found something that dates back a bit farther than lucy. and judging by the bone structure was a bi-ped. which dates back to almost 4 million years ago.
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Homo Erectus some 1.5 - 1 million years ago, Homo Sapiens some 1/2 a million years ago.

"Lucy" is an Australopithecus Ramidus .. some 3.2 million years ago. they found something that dates back a bit farther than lucy. and judging by the bone structure was a bi-ped. which dates back to almost 4 million years ago.
I wonder how the 500,000 year mark for Homo Spiens is arrived at? Documented history goes back, what about 3000 years? Even if the figure is 5000 years, that leaves 495,000 years of undocumented (pre-historic) history? Wow, so much that we don't know.
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The silver thread of truth

I would say that truth exist. Now that does not mean I know or you what
IT is. It would seem we spend a good part of our life trying to find that
truth. There are buildings we can not explain how they where built and
other things that would point to a high level of civilization such as Easter Island or the Great Pyramid of Giza. We still can not match the work that
the masons did on the Pyramid. I have an idea how this "might" have happened and will do a bit of home work before I post again.
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I wonder how the 500,000 year mark for Homo Spiens is arrived at? Documented history goes back, what about 3000 years? Even if the figure is 5000 years, that leaves 495,000 years of undocumented (pre-historic) history? Wow, so much that we don't know.
Did you see "Mission to Mars" ? that EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
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Lot of rocks there but no sign of life

Maybe you saw something I did not on your mission to Mars ? That 90% of
our brain that science says we dont use may have good info in it ? Man in
the spiritual body for millions of years and man in the clay shell for 10-14000
years and back to the spiritual body to be judged. The fall of man (Adam)
redeemed by one man (Christ). A day with the Lord is a thousand years.
It took six days for the creation of clay man. One day of rest. Four thousand
years untill Shiloh (Christ) come and two thousand years until present day.
There is still one day left after the return of Christ. That would make up
two weeks with the Lord. "I" believe spiritual man was here with clay dinosaurs until Satans pride brought down a world that was in order now
it grieved God to make man in the flesh. God said replenish the earth
not "plenish" . My thoughts are that the planet used to be on its true
axis and now is not mabe a comet hit the Gulf of Mexico and the planet
used to be 90 miles closer to the sun and the firmamnet was in place
and all was in harmony. All souls where created at one time. Each man
comes thru the water but once. That is to say be borned of woman.
God knew Jeremiah in the womb and John the Baptist and Christ and
Esau and Jacob too. God knew all of us before we where born. My hope is
that people will study there Bible for themselves and seek God.
God Bless,
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