Water...

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

Yeah, sometimes. I'll admit that I almost never drink water. I usually drink soda, tea, or a mixed drink (lemonade, koolaide, etc.). I normally get a taste for water after a hard day's work or exercise.

...and that's the deal, by the time you feel thirsty, you're already suffering from dehydration, just like by the time your skin feels hot, you're already sunburned.

[joepole]

>by the time you feel thirsty, you're already suffering from dehydration,

There's actually no scientific basis for that old wives' tale. Quite a few studies* have shown the opposite to be the case.


*[Phillips, P.A., Rolls, B.J., Ledingham, J.G.G. and Morton, J.J. (1984). Body fluid changes, thirst and drinking in man during free access to water. Physiology and Behavior , 33 , 357-363.] as an example

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by joepole

>by the time you feel thirsty, you're already suffering from dehydration,

There's actually no scientific basis for that old wives' tale. Quite a few studies* have shown the opposite to be the case.


*[Phillips, P.A., Rolls, B.J., Ledingham, J.G.G. and Morton, J.J. (1984). Body fluid changes, thirst and drinking in man during free access to water. Physiology and Behavior , 33 , 357-363.] as an example

Thirst itself isn't a sign of dehydration, you can inhale dust and become thirsty. Working up a sweat in the hot sun and feeling thirst IS a symptom of dehydration. If you've actually had a job where you worked in the sun, then you know all about the thirst that can't be quenched. Simply put, access to water doesn't have jack to do with the amount a person consumes or the amount that individual requires.

You know there's a reason you found this information in a 23 year old magazine article and not a medical book....

[rhertz]

Take me to the river, drop me in the water
Take me to the river, dip me in the water
Washing me down, washing me down

Man I hate the talking heads.....

[joepole]

"Physiology and Behavior" isn't "a magazine" it's a scientific journal. In fact, it's the gold standard of scientific journals in that particular field, as it's the official journal of the International Behavioral Neuroscience Society. That's how scientific studies are vetted, they are published in peer-reviewed journals.

>Simply put, access to water doesn't have jack to do with the amount a person consumes...

I posted a reference that (along with common sense) says it does, what evidence do you offer to support your position?

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by joepole

"Physiology and Behavior" isn't "a magazine" it's a scientific journal. In fact, it's the gold standard of scientific journals in that particular field, as it's the official journal of the International Behavioral Neuroscience Society. That's how scientific studies are vetted, they are published in peer-reviewed journals.

>Simply put, access to water doesn't have jack to do with the amount a person consumes...

I posted a reference that (along with common sense) says it does, what evidence do you offer to support your position?

What you did is post a bibliography entry which neither confirms nor supports your hypothesis. It's merely a reference to a nearly 25 year old study which you obviously didn't want me to read since you didn't include a link.

My guess is because it has more to do with access to water than it does with hydration itself....but that IS just a guess.

[joepole]

It's $4,300 a year to view that journal, so you'll forgive me if I don't give you the link. Will the author's description of the conclusions suffice?

Thirst is, in fact, a very sensitive mechanism for regulating fluid intake, according to Barbara Rolls, PhD, a nutrition researcher at Pennsylvania State University. In a 1984 study in Physiology and Behavior, she and a group of colleagues at Oxford University followed a group of men as they went through their normal day. Left to their own devices, the volunteers became thirsty and drank long before their hydration levels showed any signs of dipping.

Says Rolls, "If people have access to water or other fluid beverages, they seem to do a very good job of maintaining hydration levels."

[joepole]

Also, if you don't know the difference between "a magazine" and a scientific journal I doubt you could read and/or comprehend anything published in one, they're generally not written for a lay audience.

It's certainly more difficult to wrap your head around than Louisiana's castle doctrine statute, something we've all seen you completely misunderstand.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by joepole

It's $4,300 a year to view that journal, so you'll forgive me if I don't give you the link. Will the author's description of the conclusions suffice?

Thirst is, in fact, a very sensitive mechanism for regulating fluid intake, according to Barbara Rolls, PhD, a nutrition researcher at Pennsylvania State University. In a 1984 study in Physiology and Behavior, she and a group of colleagues at Oxford University followed a group of men as they went through their normal day. Left to their own devices, the volunteers became thirsty and drank long before their hydration levels showed any signs of dipping.

Says Rolls, "If people have access to water or other fluid beverages, they seem to do a very good job of maintaining hydration levels."

Exactly what I said, thirst by itself isn't an indication of dehydration. You haven't made some startling discovery, joe, you've merely "verified" a fact most of us already know in an feeble attempt at starting an argument......better luck next time.

[rhertz]

OK folks, if you drink too much water you could die of "water poisoning" whereas if you don't drink enough, you could die of "dehydration". So even with something as basic and vital as "water", there are limits and therefore there is a balance to be found somewhere in the middle. Just like on this board.. (ducking) hehehehe