Woman And Dog Kicked Out Of The Boardwalk

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by joepole

>The docile dog always wears a red medical jacket, and has been trained through classes at PetSmart with the designation of Canine Good Citizen.

Well, that sounds official.

I'd probably kick her out, too. That smells like BS.

Another shining example of JoePole showing his stupidity. Service dogs only recognition that they are service dogs are the red jacket that they wear and on the jacket it indicates they are working. As long as you can read, which I presume a Security Guard must be able to, then he should have been able to tell the dog was a Service Dog.

The Security Guard probably actually was suffering from Barney Fife syndrome and thought he'd finally found a situation where he could be tough. Poor him though all he actually did was prove how stupid he was and why he is actually not a real police officer.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

Another shining example of JoePole showing his stupidity. Service dogs only recognition that they are service dogs are the red jacket that they wear and on the jacket it indicates they are working. As long as you can read, which I presume a Security Guard must be able to, then he should have been able to tell the dog was a Service Dog.

The Security Guard probably actually was suffering from Barney Fife syndrome and thought he'd finally found a situation where he could be tough. Poor him though all he actually did was prove how stupid he was and why he is actually not a real police officer.

Now if it had been a Border Collie they would automatically know it was a working K-9

[joepole]

>As long as you can read, which I presume a Security Guard must be able to

You must not know many security guards.

So anybody can throw a red jacket on a dog and call it a "service animal?" or does it have to have the official certificate from Petsmart, too? What if the given excuse is completely far-fetched and fake-sounding, like "he detects my asthma attacks."

[joepole]

LA R.S. 21§52. Guide or service dog, rights and privileges of owners; penalties for violations

A. Any blind person, visually handicapped person, deaf person, hearing impaired person, or otherwise physically disabled person who is accompanied by a properly controlled dog which such person has been taught to use as a guide or for service at a qualified dog guide or service school is entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, and privileges of all public accommodation, amusement or resort, and other places to which the general public is invited, and shall be entitled to take such dog into such conveyances and places, subject only to the accommodations and limitations applicable to all persons not so accompanied, provided that the dog shall not occupy a seat in any public conveyance.

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C. The provisions of Subsections A and B of this Section shall be inapplicable unless the person, as described in Subsections A and B of this Section, accompanied by a guide or service dog, shall furnish evidence as to the training of the dog, which evidence shall be obtained from the training agency or school by which the dog has been trained.

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I wonder if a "Canine Good Citizen" diploma from a pet store counts as evidence as to the training at a qualified service school. I also wonder if having asthma counts as being physically disabled for the purposes of this law.

[joepole]

>Service dogs only recognition that they are service dogs are the red jacket that they wear and on the jacket it indicates they are working.

So, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. State law requires owners to furnish, on demand, evidence of training and certification. A red jacket doesn't cut it.

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by joepole

>Service dogs only recognition that they are service dogs are the red jacket that they wear and on the jacket it indicates they are working.

So, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. State law requires owners to furnish, on demand, evidence of training and certification. A red jacket doesn't cut it.

No stupid, I do know what I am talking about. Most of these people don't keep on hand the certification because typically they don't run across a security questioning them in this fashion. Most have the knowledge to understand the red jacket. And yes, the trainers at PetsMart do have the ability to train the dog to the appropriate level for this lady. And Yes Joe there are dogs who can detect astha attacks before they occur, seizures before they occur, monitor diabetic patients, etc. The dogs are obviously brighter than you and the security guard due to their wide raning sensory abilities.

You know Joe you constantly amaze me with your ability to make a donkey's behind out of yourself. I hope and pray that you nor your daughter never, ever come to the place of need that many of the people are that you frequently poke fun of or ridicule. It will be a bitter pill for you to swallow.

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by joepole

LA R.S. 21§52. Guide or service dog, rights and privileges of owners; penalties for violations

A. Any blind person, visually handicapped person, deaf person, hearing impaired person, or otherwise physically disabled person who is accompanied by a properly controlled dog which such person has been taught to use as a guide or for service at a qualified dog guide or service school is entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, and privileges of all public accommodation, amusement or resort, and other places to which the general public is invited, and shall be entitled to take such dog into such conveyances and places, subject only to the accommodations and limitations applicable to all persons not so accompanied, provided that the dog shall not occupy a seat in any public conveyance.

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C. The provisions of Subsections A and B of this Section shall be inapplicable unless the person, as described in Subsections A and B of this Section, accompanied by a guide or service dog, shall furnish evidence as to the training of the dog, which evidence shall be obtained from the training agency or school by which the dog has been trained.

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I wonder if a "Canine Good Citizen" diploma from a pet store counts as evidence as to the training at a qualified service school. I also wonder if having asthma counts as being physically disabled for the purposes of this law.

For someone who claims to be really smart you had a hard time with this one didn't you?

The law did not say it had to be a qualified service school. It states "from the training agency or school by which the dog has been trained". PetSmart has certified dog trainers in their "dog school" inside their store. We have trained a dog with them and I would be willing to bet Joe she's better behaved than you.

Furthermore, asthma is considered a physical disability. Yes, I did my homework on this one before you argue: #1. I have asthma. #2 I called my own physician and asked. #3 I live with a physician.

What is your real issue with this woman having her dog that she needs with her? Is it just so you can argue?

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Maybe the dog was sagging and showing his arse Was he guilty of leaving logs down on the board walk ? I say bring him before a jury of his peers and get him up against the wall.

[rhertz]

I heard the "medical dog" was a pit bull.. (or part pit bull) Is this true?

[Stacy Love]

Originally Posted by joepole

>As long as you can read, which I presume a Security Guard must be able to

You must not know many security guards.

So anybody can throw a red jacket on a dog and call it a "service animal?" or does it have to have the official certificate from Petsmart, too? What if the given excuse is completely far-fetched and fake-sounding, like "he detects my asthma attacks."

oh so amusing it is not so far fetched my inside pit and my cat help me with things like letting me know before i have a seizure they are not certfied and i dont claim them to be maybe they should be though
You are such a negative person joepole makes me wonder if you were given enough love and affection as a child if so then maybe you should remove that pole from your well you get the point!

[Texasbelle]

Stacy, I think the problem with Joe is the pole has been stuck up there too long!

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

Now if it had been a Border Collie they would automatically know it was a working K-9

Isaac, this occurred at the Boardwalk not a Pasture.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

Isaac, this occurred at the Boardwalk not a Pasture.

None the matter a Border Collie is a Border Collie everywhere it goes ! All ways vigil and working. You know they are not really dogs they are Border Collies !

[joepole]

A red jacket, according to the law, means nothing. I can throw a red jacket on any dog I want, so obviously a red jacket is not the "only recognition that they are service dogs," since state law requires actual documentation.

>And Yes Joe there are dogs who can detect astha attacks before they occur, seizures before they occur, monitor diabetic patients, etc.

I don't doubt that, but are those dogs covered by the law? not as I see it written. Has any court recognized asthma as a physical disability? I'm not aware of any.

>The dogs are obviously brighter than you and the security guard due to their wide raning sensory abilities

I can't speak for the security guard, but I'm really, really smart. Any animal that has both a great sense of smell and the desire to eat its own feces is not very smart.