Baby near death

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by vixweb

Whos stuck? The man that wanted the abortion, but now he's gonna have to pay $ for 18 years- and YES the law will make him pay(as they SHOULD) I once worked with a guy that just took home $87.00/week because child support was being garnished-You don't think women have babies JUST to be vindictive? I know It happens. What about the women who say they're on birth control, but arent? This is a two-way street, there are PLENTY of sorry women out there too, but I know- we just dont understand Blah-Blah.....

But how much money per week did the guy make and how much were the kids getting? Those are VERY important factors which you perhaps don't know. Most men do absolutely everything within their power to get out of paying child support or try to pay as little as possible. And do this while seeming to forget how much it takes to take care of a child.

You know while you are bemoaning the fact that a woman will lie about birth control...let's not forget that you as a man ALWAYS has the option to put a raincoat on and be safe and sure each and every time. Yes, there are sorry women out there but it's not often you'll find us shirking our responsbilities to our children like the men do.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

But how much money per week did the guy make and how much were the kids getting? Those are VERY important factors which you perhaps don't know. Most men do absolutely everything within their power to get out of paying child support or try to pay as little as possible. And do this while seeming to forget how much it takes to take care of a child.

You know while you are bemoaning the fact that a woman will lie about birth control...let's not forget that you as a man ALWAYS has the option to put a raincoat on and be safe and sure each and every time. Yes, there are sorry women out there but it's not often you'll find us shirking our responsibilities to our children like the men do.

It is all about the American dollar and how many of them can you bring to the table Put out or get out or no pay no play.
Money it's a trip ...................

[Pocahontas]

Just for the record I don't believe in abortion and in that private decision I pray the woman would choose to have the baby. More than likely she will have the brunt of the responsibility of rearing that baby. There is always adoption and many many loving couples waiting to take that loved one and raise it as their own. Of course money most certainly comes into play from birth to weddings the gravy train keeps a rollin'!

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by Pocahontas

More than likely she will have the brunt of the responsibility of rearing that baby.

If by "rearing" you mean taking the baby to the store or to the doctor, then I agree. But if you mean paying for the visit to the store or to the doctor, then I wholeheartedly disagree. Man and woman each have their part in the cycle of life. Mine seems to be paying bills and insurance premiums.

I am not loved for this. When was the last time my wife or kids said "Hey Dad, thanks for knocking out this months mortgage note". Or "Hey Dad, this electricity sure is nice". But I know I'm more than loved. I'm needed. Just like baby's need their moms.

[Pocahontas]

I was referring to a hypothetical situation where an unmarried couple was having to choose to keep the baby and not abort it. I think in those cases the woman is frequently abandoned by the male and left to take the load on alone! Thus maybe she should opt for adoption!

I'm sure you do work your butt off as my husband does to make the family content. Do you do your part in thanking your wife for ALL she does for you and your children? I do thank mine probably not often enough but we do share the load and he compliments me as well.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by Pocahontas

I was referring to a hypothetical situation where an unmarried couple was having to choose to keep the baby and not abort it.

Sorry if I read or took things out of context.

Originally Posted by Pocahontas

I'm sure you do work your butt off as my husband does to make the family content. Do you do your part in thanking your wife for ALL she does for you and your children?

yes I do. Maybe not every day, but deep inside I do appreciate the fact that she in all likelyhood has the hardest job on earth. (raising our children) But on the other hand, kids are resilient and forgiving, but creditors and bill collectors are not. Nor are hospital bill collectors. It can be an awefully cold world men live in. The buck must stop somewhere. But that does not take away from the devotion, dedication, and love that the vast majority of moms give to their children.

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

But how much money per week did the guy make and how much were the kids getting? Those are VERY important factors which you perhaps don't know. Most men do absolutely everything within their power to get out of paying child support or try to pay as little as possible. And do this while seeming to forget how much it takes to take care of a child.

You know while you are bemoaning the fact that a woman will lie about birth control...let's not forget that you as a man ALWAYS has the option to put a raincoat on and be safe and sure each and every time. Yes, there are sorry women out there but it's not often you'll find us shirking our responsbilities to our children like the men do.

Thank you Belle for your comment. It is the woman that has the most responsibility for their child. As I have said abortion is not for me but I will not tell another woman what to do, it has to be their decision. They are the ones that will have to live with their decision. I'm sorry if it is wrong but that is how I feel. Now days you can tell a woman it is wrong to have an abortion, she has the child then kills it then can you truely not feel resonpsable. Or you can tell her to have one then she can't forgive you emotionally. I would rather it be their own decision. In my home town, years ago, there was this man who had 4 little girls, the oldest around 9. His wife left him so he took the girls out one day, stopped on a dirt road told them to get out and run down the road. As they ran he shot each to death, loaded them up in the back of his station wagon and took them to the funeral home. He went in told the workers he killed his children and they were in the back of his car to go get them. All that happened to him he stayed a while in a nut house. Sad, very sad.