Who Do You Think Will Be Our Next President?

[AnimeSpirit]

Originally Posted by Neo

This country has created a welfare system that rewards having children parents can't afford, and the less you do the more entitlements you recieve.

You know, there was another website forum a while back that discussed a related topic to that. The forum was discussing a controversial government program idea.

This voluntary program involves social services taking note of a child's existance as soon as the doctor confirms the pregnancy (like a prebirth registration). Social services would then examine the parents' financial status and living arrangements (all of this voluntary). If the parents' lifestyle is considered unsatisfactory, then social services would point them to various means of improving their lifestyle prior to the child's birth (financial counseling, home loan programs, etc.). This would help create decent homes for the children upon their birth. Parents who actively participated in this program would have access to welfare should the need arise. Reverserly, parents who chose NOT to accept the help of social services would have trouble getting welfare. This is suppose to help reduce the people who abuse the system in this way and motivate people to take part in the various programs that our tax money pays for.

I don't know what my position on this idea is, but I'd be interested to see how it would work out.

[Texasbelle]

You know Neo, nothing can get it done like a woman.

Furthermore while we are discussing this, why should the educated and I guess that makes us rich have to be penalized so? Our tax bracket is such now that we don't even get to claim our children any longer. I am not sure if people are aware that it actually works that way but it does. You do reach a point where you are even penalized and no longer get to even claim your children as your own. However, you can sit around, do nothing, watch Springer all day, have EIGHT babies, and get to claim everyone of them and to put the cherry on top get an EARNED INCOME CREDIT. Now someone needs to justify that to me. A guess a Democrat could try. What about a flat tax rate? Everybody pays say the same 25% rate. Wouldn't that be a thought?

I frankly shudder at the thought of Hilary or Obama Bin Laden in the White House. John Edwards needs to stop and take care of his wife. It's time to enjoy the time you are going to have with her, not the campaign trail. Once the cancer metastasizes to the bones there is no curing it. These people's priorities and where they place them amaze me.

Enough of my soapbox for the moment...back to a little work so the government can get half of it to feed some bum down the road.

[Neo]

T-belle, you sound like a conservative to the core, and in the minority of the tax bracket. the minority, in most cases, have the biggest voice of change...... Not in this case. Go figure the rich get richer and poor want more for nothing! I say get an education, get a job, and bust your a**.

[Texasbelle]

I am with you Neo. The thing for most to remember is that the minority at this point have the advantage truly. They have more scholarships, etc. We have to pay the way the whole way!! It can be free for them if they choose to use the opportunities out there for them. It's all about what you want.

[Isabella]

What about a sales tax instead of an income tax? Some say it is a fairer tax. Not sure how I feel about this. 25% would be a lot for someone who only makes $12,000 a year. I feel anything over 35% is too high no matter how much you make. You still pay sales tax, property tax, and social security, so you need to have something left over to spend to keep our economy healthy.

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by Isabella

What about a sales tax instead of an income tax? Some say it is a fairer tax. Not sure how I feel about this. 25% would be a lot for someone who only makes $12,000 a year. I feel anything over 35% is too high no matter how much you make. You still pay sales tax, property tax, and social security, so you need to have something left over to spend to keep our economy healthy.

Isabella, then I wonder how you feel about the almost 45% bracket my husband and I are in? Yes, almost 45% of everything earned in this house goes to TAXES! Somebody pleaasssssssseeeeee explain what is fair about that? I will tell you...nothing. People are penalized because they do better. They went to school, got an education, work longer hours, harder hours, and have to pay dearly for it.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

Isabella, then I wonder how you feel about the almost 45% bracket my husband and I are in? Yes, almost 45% of everything earned in this house goes to TAXES! Somebody pleaasssssssseeeeee explain what is fair about that? I will tell you...nothing. People are penalized because they do better. They went to school, got an education, work longer hours, harder hours, and have to pay dearly for it.

I work for myself and have to pay high taxes "and" health insurance is thru the roof. I can deal with taxes because I do not make enough to be in the 45% bracket but the hospital bills and doctor office visits are killing me. This is what is killing the middle class working person. I am for equal taxes for all and depending on their status deductions might be in order. Good luck on these two.
Isaac

[Isabella]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

Isabella, then I wonder how you feel about the almost 45% bracket my husband and I are in? Yes, almost 45% of everything earned in this house goes to TAXES! Somebody pleaasssssssseeeeee explain what is fair about that? I will tell you...nothing. People are penalized because they do better. They went to school, got an education, work longer hours, harder hours, and have to pay dearly for it.

It's not fair! The most you should pay is 35% with deductions that everyone else gets. Truthfully, I think it should be no more than 33%. I did not realize there was a tax bracket with 45%. I assumed 35% was the highest. On top of that you have other taxes to pay besides income tax. However, I must admit I would love to have your problem.