What does it mean to be anti-Semitic ??

[joepole]

>You may want to start with the Bible and then some history books too.

At least you admit the Bible isn't a history book. That's a start.

[Al Swearengen]

Isaac-Saxxon wrote:

How did the Jews win the war against the arabs let me quote Rabine "American money and french weapons"

I knew you would bring this up, because it has exactly zero relevance to the issue at hand. Yes, Israel's armed forces were mainly equipped with weaponry made in the West. So what? Guess who equipped the arabs? Thats right, Isaac...the Soviets. In fact, the arabs had the advantage over the Jews in every way. So whats your point? We didn't fight the war for them, if thats what you're implying. The Jews were vastly outnumbered and outgunned, yet they STILL prevailed. This is just another conspicuous attempt on your part to obfuscate the issue...sort of like you did with the "I have no connection to the KKK or any other hate group" statement.

You see, Isaac, I was content to allow you to ramble on, unchallenged, with the biblical minutiae....that was harmless enough. But when you started making those not-so-subtly veiled assertions that the Jews have some diabolical, machiavellian plan for world domination, I knew EXACTLY what you were about. What, you think you're the first closet nazi I've butted heads with? I saw you coming a country mile away, son. You figured "Hey, I'll just put them into a daze with my sleepy bible study lesson, then, when their eyes are just about to glaze over, I'll slip in a little subliminal Goebbelspeak on the sly". You're not fooling anyone, Isaac. See, your routine isn't as seamless as you think it is. You tipped your hand...exposed your agenda a bit too soon. This isn't "StormFront", or "The Aryan Nations Website", or "The American Nazi Party Website". Those are the proper venues for what you have in mind, and thats where you want to take your schtick.

You guys never learn!

[Isaac-Saxxon]

It would seem you always know what I am going to say before I say it. You must
have that all seeing eye Al. You have your blinders on and thats ok alot of
folks do. You may want to spend some time in the history books sir. Maybe
take a hour and read the book of Revelation it makes it real clear. You think
I have a hidden agenda ? Well now that agenda is the Bible and no where
does it advocate killing the Jews. Hey Al are you a Jew ? Yea I know you
said you are a Christian but you could still be a Jew. I can tell you are
still plugged in the Matrix and get your facts from the news. It is bleeding
hearts that have let our country down and let the subverters in our government. Man had to have a king (Saul) and look what it got us
nothing but trouble. You are fun to spar with. Have a great weekend I
will be back on line next Tuesday so get your jabs ready for next week.
Goats to the left and sheep to the right !

[kansast]

O.k. I'm claiming Godwin's Law

Godwin Law states:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. [1]

There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's Law. Thus Godwin's Law serves also to impose an upper bound on thread length in general.

It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's Law (in the above sense) will be unsuccessful. This is sometimes referred to as "Quirk's Exception". "RGB's Restriction of Quirk's Exception", also states: "In cases where the subject of the comparison to Hitler fails to recognize the applicability of Quirk's Exception, Quirk's Exception shall not apply and Godwin's Law shall take effect in its normal manner."

P=(k^(1/n)) k<1 where P = the probablity of a reference to Hitler/Nazis, n = the number of posts, and k = a constant less than one depending on the subject of the post (k values for posts such as "Discuss WWII" will be much closer to 1 than the k value for a post labeled "Look at the cute doggies").

More Info on Godwin's Law

Having a open mind is good. Calling names is not productive. New thread please !

[Al Swearengen]

KansasT wrote:

Godwin's law states :as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving nazis or Hitler approaches one

Yes, I'm well aware of this "law", and I'd be the first to agree that in most cases it is applicable. However, in cases such as this one, where one of the parties has demonstrated a clear intent to elicit a gut-level visceral response using emotionally charged subject matter (trolling), especially subject matter involving Israel, Israelis, or Jews, such comparisons to Nazis and/or Hitler are not only appropriate, they are warranted. Here, let me break down what I just said into bite-sized chunks for everyone...if the jackboot fits, wear it!


Cichlid Man wrote:

Having an open mind is good, calling names is not productive

Well, I'll tell ya Cich, my mind stays open all the way up to the point where somebody starts in with the "Zionism" crap..it stays open until somebody starts insinuating that the Jews are hellbent on world domination..then my mind slams shut like a steel trap. These people have endured far too much scapegoating and suffering at the hands of small-minded malcontents on a centuries long witchhunt.

Isaac-Saxxon wrote:

Hey Al, are you a Jew? Yea I know you said you are a Christian but you could still be a Jew

I'm about as far from being Jewish as YOU can get, Isaac. But when the little Eichmanns of the world start spouting inflammatory nonsense, I immediately swap out my Christian Cross for the Star of David. I instantly convert to Judaism, at which point I become more Jewish than the most Jewed-up Jew who ever practiced Judaism in Judea.

Look people, I didn't enjoy this any more than any of you did, but I feel we all have a personal responsibility, no make that an obligation, to call guys like Isaac here out on the carpet when-ever and where-ever they erupt. Ok, I've said all I'm going to say on this subject. Isaac, no hard feelings..have a good weekend.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Yes, I'm well aware of this "law", and I'd be the first to agree that in most cases it is applicable. However, in cases such as this one, where one of the parties has demonstrated a clear intent to elicit a gut-level visceral response using emotionally charged subject matter (trolling)

True, the title of this thread was more of a statement than a question! Sir Isaac may very well be trolling... Surely it wouldn't be the first time. Please be careful not to take the bait to easily. I enjoy reading your posts Al, and would hate it if you got turned off to posting here. (but not this thread LOL)

Die Thread Die! LOL

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by kansast

Godwin Law states:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. [1]

More Info on Godwin's Law

Wow, Godwin's law even has a formula!

P=(k^(1/n)) k<1 where P = the probablity of a reference to Hitler/Nazis, n = the number of posts, and k = a constant less than one depending on the subject of the post (k values for posts such as "Discuss WWII" will be much closer to 1 than the k value for a post labeled "Look at the cute doggies"