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Old 12-06-2007, 09:15 AM   #1
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>Yep people done gone and put their Bible away.

Religion cures crazy? There's some crispy corpses in Waco that might disagree.
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:22 AM   #2
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Not to mention in Jonestown, Guyana.
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:10 AM   #3
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Not to mention in Jonestown, Guyana.
I am sure there are some that got burned at the stake too Good to see you two sitting on the same fragile limb
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:08 AM   #4
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"There are plenty of religious nuts" is a "fragile limb?" Seems like more of an indisputable fact to me.
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"There are plenty of religious nuts" is a "fragile limb?" Seems like more of an indisputable fact to me.
There are just as many agnostic fools sitting on their own rotten limb. Seems like more of an indisputable fact to me JP still love ya man but book smarts will only take you so far. Ignorance is bliss when it comes to things of much deeper value.
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:58 AM   #6
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>There are just as many agnostic fools sitting on their own rotten limb.

Just as many as what? Crazy people that are religious, too?
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:00 PM   #7
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>There are just as many agnostic fools sitting on their own rotten limb.

Just as many as what? Crazy people that are religious, too?
Yes ! Churches are full of them and the limbs are are just as full of agnostic fools
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Not to mention in Jonestown, Guyana.
Who thinks that either Jim Jones or the Branch Davidians were good Christians? Only then could you call these people "Religious" instead of "egomanical", "neurotic", or whatever word fits. There are many who have a lot to say about religion who are not truely religious themselves.
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Who thinks that either Jim Jones or the Branch Davidians were good Christians? Only then could you call these people "Religious" instead of "egomanical", "neurotic", or whatever word fits. There are many who have a lot to say about religion who are not truely religious themselves.
Being religious is a man made way of thinking with emotions. I agree with your post rhertz and the crispy critters tell no lies now do they
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Who thinks that either Jim Jones or the Branch Davidians were good Christians? Only then could you call these people "Religious" instead of "egomanical", "neurotic", or whatever word fits. There are many who have a lot to say about religion who are not truely religious themselves.
The above two mentioned were false prophets, claiming to be the Son of God. They were not Christians, they just knew how to take the Bible and twist it to make it what they wanted it to be. A common problem in the world today.

I don't know what was going on with the guy in Nebraska, but obviously something wasn't clicking. But just because he did a horrible thing, I am deeply saddened for his family as well as the other victims. We should remember that they just lost their child. Not only that, but knowing he killed so many innocent people. I hope and pray that I will never feel so bad and depressed that I think my life isn't valuable.
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>Who thinks that either Jim Jones or the Branch Davidians were good Christians?

Probably about as many people that think the killers that "need Bibles" were good atheists.

>they just knew how to take the Bible and twist it to make it what they wanted it to be.

And your solution is more Bibles?

Christianity doesn't have the copyright on "don't kill other people." Pretty much every moral, ethical, and legal system on the planet has that rule. Anybody who is considered "a good ___________" doesn't shoot up the mall.
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True, Jones and Koresh were false prophets by every means. The point that Joe was making is that religion does not cure insanity. In fact, some people use religion to support their madness. His supporting fact for this statement was that there are crazies in church just as there are out. It's a reasonable statement.

Anywho, this guy was cracked. I can't figure out why he had to take several random people with him. What's the purpose? No one ever remembers scum like him for very long, so surely fame wasn't his only motivation. Not unless he was crazy and stupid.
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Are we sure those people are random? If I was on my out I can think of a few people that I could do the world a favor by taking with me.
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Are we sure those people are random? If I was on my out I can think of a few people that I could do the world a favor by taking with me.
True, but what are your chances of seeing your entire hitlist at the mall at the same time? Chances are much more likely the people were random.
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True, Jones and Koresh were false prophets by every means. The point that Joe was making is that religion does not cure insanity. In fact, some people use religion to support their madness. His supporting fact for this statement was that there are crazies in church just as there are out. It's a reasonable statement.

Anywho, this guy was cracked. I can't figure out why he had to take several random people with him. What's the purpose? No one ever remembers scum like him for very long, so surely fame wasn't his only motivation. Not unless he was crazy and stupid.
It's the "fame" part that made this fool take out all the innocents. Even if he's only getting his 15 minutes, that is apparently what he was after. If he'd of just killed himself it would have just been an obituary in his hometown paper.
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