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I believe I can speak from both ends you keep referring to Pie. I have been the low wage earner and now can speak as the business owner. The minimum wage increase is not going to be all that you think it is. It is going to hurt business owners which will in fact trickle down and hurt the worker. Business owners can not continue to keep having to fork out large wages, insurance, taxes, etc. It is becoming more impossible for some of these people to stay in business. I understand (but don't agree with) why so many do hire illegal aliens. We've had many construction workers and the such at our house over the last couple of years. The Mexican will get out here and work an American boy under the table and then some for $5.00 an hour. But that white boy expects $10.00 an hour and won't hardly work. Where is the fairness in that? Who wants to pay for that? Not me. My husband came from absolutely nothing. Grew up in a house with holes in the floor. He worked minimum wage jobs and put himself through college and medical school. He never ever whined about that minimum wage and how he was OWED more. He MADE it happen for himself. Anybody and everybody has the same opportunities that he did and can do the same thing he did. He put himself through school with the minimum wage, took care of a family while doing it, had student loans, grants, etc. so it is all possible. It is a matter of what is important to you. I too at one point was a single parent making little money but I worked hard. I proved myself to my employers and got raises one right after the other. Before I knew it I was making more than ever. It certainly wasn't six figures but it was good money. It was about working hard and proving myself. I never stopped and whined about that minimum wage. I just kept working hard which is how I got ahead. Everybody can do this. You just have to try.
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>If you already make above minimum wage then you will not be getting a raise.
Correct, you're getting a pay cut. >So the answer is to keep the little guy down no matter what. No, the answer is the little guy is no more important/deserving than the big guy. If anything he's less. |
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Piemaker, if the employer will not pay you what you expect to be paid then quit. It is that simple. If no one will work for him then he will have to offer more.
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Let's check some six figure pay and see if these people deserve what they get.
From The Congressional Institute: Representatives and Senators currently earn $165,200 per year The Majority and Minority Leaders in both the House and Senate and the President pro tempore of the Senate earn $180,100. The Speaker of the House earns $208,000. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Salary Effective Date $165,200 January 1, 2006 $162,100 January 1, 2005 $158,100 January 1, 2004 $154,700 January 1, 2003 $150,000 January 1, 2002 $145,100 January 1, 2001 $141,300 January 1, 2000 $136,700 January 1, 1998 $133,600 January 1, 1993 $129,500 January 1, 1992 Nice raises every year, they deserve every penny uh. Most of these people own businesses in the private sector that they make money from.
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I think we disagree on the principle. No one is against the little man. Most just plain think it will not work.
I would love to see a better living for all. But the federal government is not going to do that simply by mandating it. I'm in sales. Everytime I ask my boss for a raise he says "great, go out and earn yourself one." |
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>do you think a CEO that makes six figures is worth the pay he gets. Name one that is worth six figures
Almost all of them. $100,000 isn't a lot of money for the job of running a company, especially if your performance means the difference between billions lost or made. >I would love to see a better living for all. No, you wouldn't. If everyone had the same standard of living the world would be a miserable place because we'd all be dirt poor. Economics is about relative values. If you gave everyone in the US $100,000 tomorrow it would be financially devastating, we'd all of a sudden be a lot poorer. |
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