Is Christianity In Trouble? - Page 25

Isaac-Saxxon · 03-29-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlett

I missed you Brain your posts are interesting as most will agree it keeps us all coming back here

The Brain and Stephen Hawkins

two Brains, yes quite right. You seem to have mellowed Brain we miss that old fire buddy. How about this question ? Do you think that Christians are taking over LA ? It could be rough if that happened. I know the people that are saved are just growing in number so it is far from being dead. Stay strong and the truth will come it will come

Isaac

BrainSmashR · 03-30-2007, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by scarlett

I missed you Brain your posts are interesting as most will agree it keeps us all coming back here

Ummm, thanx for the compliment?!?!?!

....but you shouldn't expect me to make an appearance everyday, ESPECIALLY with all this beautiful weather we've been having!!!!

In fact, the safest bet would be that if I don't post in the morning that I won't be around at all.

....but today is payday AND I go off emergency call, so don't look for me to be playing on the internet tonight either. I'm going beer drinking and beaver hunting....just hope I don't wake up with a Nutria rat

BrainSmashR · 03-30-2007, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

The Brain and Stephen Hawkins

two Brains, yes quite right. You seem to have mellowed Brain we miss that old fire buddy. How about this question ? Do you think that Christians are taking over LA ? It could be rough if that happened. I know the people that are saved are just growing in number so it is far from being dead. Stay strong and the truth will come it will come

Isaac

We live in a Christian nation....that's like saying Americans are taking over Louisiana.

However, thanks to separation of church and state, people like you and Roy Moore are the only ones who will be in for a rough ride.

Isaac-Saxxon · 03-30-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

We live in a Christian nation....that's like saying Americans are taking over Louisiana.

However, thanks to separation of church and state, people like you and Roy Moore are the only ones who will be in for a rough ride.

I have a great ride going and it will be taking me to a even better place. I hope Roy Moore is there and I feel like he will be but it is not up to me. Same goes for you Brain I hope you are there too. You need not ever worry for me I am very happy and have the best advocate one could ever have ! Christ . Yes it is faith and it is mine and I try to share the Word with anybody that will open their eyes and ears to the Word of God. I hope you have a great weekend and have a beer for me. You know the first miracle that Christ did was to change water in to wine at the wedding feast.
Isaac

Interested w/ an Opinion · 03-30-2007, 10:31 AM

Thanks to all for welcoming me to the site. When I first started reading I let myself get upset because of Brains comments. But after reading further I realized there are so many more good comments and thoughts to read than his. He is serving his purpose. How many of us have become dormant in our study of the Bible? Brain is inspiring us to defend our faith to anyone and everyone who will listen. I actually think Brain would like to be convinced. He talks big of how much fun he is having. He thinks just because you are a Christian you can't have any fun. PLEASE! The only difference is my fun doesn't leave me with a hangover or an empty feeling wishing there was something more to life. I'm not a holy roller by any means. I just try to live my life as well as I can. I make plenty of mistakes. But I keep trying to live as God wants me live. When I fail I know God will forgive me and help me. Yep. There's that Faith again.

AnimeSpirit · 03-30-2007, 03:03 PM

You know, I just had an interesting thought.

Why do we not have concrete, physical evidence of God's existance (other than His creations)?
Because He doesn't want us to have any!

Why does He not want us to have any evidence that He exists?
Because we're suppose to follow our hearts and just believe.

I'll tell Brain exactly what he wants to hear. YES! All we have is our faith because that is all God wants us have. The faith is the test! It is the pencil and the paper and He is the teacher (calculators aren't allowed

)! We will not know 100% if we are right until after the test is over and handed in. If we remember to study and what the test is all about, we'll get an A in the end.

I'm not a Christian myself, but I'd imagine this isn't a bad analogy.

Isaac-Saxxon · 03-30-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

You know, I just had an interesting thought.

Why do we not have concrete, physical evidence of God's existance (other than His creations)?
Because He doesn't want us to have any!

Why does He not want us to have any evidence that He exists?
Because we're suppose to follow our hearts and just believe.

I'll tell Brain exactly what he wants to hear. YES! All we have is our faith because that is all God wants us have. The faith is the test! It is the pencil and the paper and He is the teacher (calculators aren't allowed

)! We will not know 100% if we are right until after the test is over and handed in. If we remember to study and what the test is all about, we'll get an A in the end.

I'm not a Christian myself, but I'd imagine this isn't a bad analogy.

God like a parent needs to hear I love you and thank you first and foremost and life if full of love some of it hard love as with a bad child and other times that tender love that same child needs. He would not send the hard love if He did not love you so kiss the paddle and move on to better ground. It is faith and He does own all souls no matter who they are so to think by not believing that you found away out well ! NOT ! He created you and will decided your long term fate. I hope you all have a good future and eternity.
Isaac

AnimeSpirit · 03-31-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown

Great thought! You may become a Christian, yet.

Don't get the wrong idea. I've been a Christian before (hence my fair understanding of the Christian ways), but my heart has long since abandoned that path for another. I don't mind listening to Christian lore or speaking of Christianity hypothetically. I show the Christian God as much respect as I would show any deity of any religion that is not my own. "Honor thy neighbor," so to speak.

I have nothing against Christianity or its followers, but God gave me a heart that belongs to a different path.

rhertz · 03-31-2007, 12:59 AM

Non-Christians who believe in God are at the very least half way there. In my ever so humble opinion, I think that belief in God is the main step that will get you somewhere. (where I'm not so sure) But somewhere. That's half of it. Now belief in Christ is a different (but related) matter. That is not a matter of faith but rather a matter of grace. The whole concept of Christ is that as believers in God, some of us are so messed up that we would never work out way out of debt to God (via karma) So Christ came to be and opened up a new door thru grace for anyone can walk thru. Now speaking for myself, I am so messed up (in my humble opinion) that I must rely on grace to save me. (rather than karma) I'm OK with that. Now for those who are so perfect that they don't need grace to save them in a similar manner, then my hat is off to them. For them, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth is the rule. Choose one or the other, because that is all that there is. (to choose from)

Isaac-Saxxon · 03-31-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

Don't get the wrong idea. I've been a Christian before (hence my fair understanding of the Christian ways), but my heart has long since abandoned that path for another. I don't mind listening to Christian lore or speaking of Christianity hypothetically. I show the Christian God as much respect as I would show any deity of any religion that is not my own. "Honor thy neighbor," so to speak.

I have nothing against Christianity or its followers, but God gave me a heart that belongs to a different path.

For now anyway and thank you for showing the respect that we should all show for each other and different faiths. Where does the thread we call life take us after this step ? Man still seeking that silver thread back to the start of life some think this and some think that. Good post Anime

Isaac

Isabella · 03-31-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rhertz

Non-Christians who believe in God are at the very least half way there. In my ever so humble opinion, I think that belief in God is the main step that will get you somewhere. (where I'm not so sure) But somewhere. That's half of it. Now belief in Christ is a different (but related) matter. That is not a matter of faith but rather a matter of grace. The whole concept of Christ is that as believers in God, some of us are so messed up that we would never work out way out of debt to God (via karma) So Christ came to be and opened up a new door thru grace for anyone can walk thru. Now speaking for myself, I am so messed up (in my humble opinion) that I must rely on grace to save me. (rather than karma) I'm OK with that. Now for those who are so perfect that they don't need grace to save them in a similar manner, then my hat is off to them. For them, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth is the rule. Choose one or the other, because that is all that there is. (to choose from)

Nice thought.

Isaac-Saxxon · 03-31-2007, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Isabella

Nice thought.

Thank God for Christ and His Grace. I hope you all have a great weekend it has been a very long week and I am ready for some R&R for sure. All the kids gone for the weekend just need to make sure there are no mail order kids coming

See ya on the other side.
Isaac

refugen3 · 04-04-2007, 04:28 PM

I've been reading for the last hour or so and forgot the original question.

So I looked back...is christianity in trouble? Well it may be, but the good thing is this topic sure does reveal a lot of strong emmotion! In my opinion we may be facing a new awakening.

refugen3 · 04-04-2007, 05:03 PM

In response to my last post I went backwards and realized the original question was brought back into play. Guess I'll be more careful next time

rhertz · 04-04-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by refugen3

In response to my last post I went backwards and realized the original question was brought back into play. Guess I'll be more careful next time

LOL, In my opinion, it never hurts to try to stay on topic!

It's good to see a new face on board.

04-04-2007, 04:28 PM	#373
refugen3 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	I'm new at this I've been reading for the last hour or so and forgot the original question. So I looked back...is christianity in trouble? Well it may be, but the good thing is this topic sure does reveal a lot of strong emmotion! In my opinion we may be facing a new awakening.

04-04-2007, 05:03 PM	#374
refugen3 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	oops In response to my last post I went backwards and realized the original question was brought back into play. Guess I'll be more careful next time

03-30-2007, 10:31 AM	#365
Interested w/ an Opinion New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Thanks to all for welcoming me to the site. When I first started reading I let myself get upset because of Brains comments. But after reading further I realized there are so many more good comments and thoughts to read than his. He is serving his purpose. How many of us have become dormant in our study of the Bible? Brain is inspiring us to defend our faith to anyone and everyone who will listen. I actually think Brain would like to be convinced. He talks big of how much fun he is having. He thinks just because you are a Christian you can't have any fun. PLEASE! The only difference is my fun doesn't leave me with a hangover or an empty feeling wishing there was something more to life. I'm not a holy roller by any means. I just try to live my life as well as I can. I make plenty of mistakes. But I keep trying to live as God wants me live. When I fail I know God will forgive me and help me. Yep. There's that Faith again.

03-30-2007, 03:03 PM	#366
AnimeSpirit SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nowhere Age: 41 Posts: 1,659 Rep Power: 261	You know, I just had an interesting thought. Why do we not have concrete, physical evidence of God's existance (other than His creations)? Because He doesn't want us to have any! Why does He not want us to have any evidence that He exists? Because we're suppose to follow our hearts and just believe. I'll tell Brain exactly what he wants to hear. YES! All we have is our faith because that is all God wants us have. The faith is the test! It is the pencil and the paper and He is the teacher (calculators aren't allowed )! We will not know 100% if we are right until after the test is over and handed in. If we remember to study and what the test is all about, we'll get an A in the end. I'm not a Christian myself, but I'd imagine this isn't a bad analogy.

03-31-2007, 12:59 AM	#369
rhertz SBLive! Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,834 Rep Power: 294	Non-Christians who believe in God are at the very least half way there. In my ever so humble opinion, I think that belief in God is the main step that will get you somewhere. (where I'm not so sure) But somewhere. That's half of it. Now belief in Christ is a different (but related) matter. That is not a matter of faith but rather a matter of grace. The whole concept of Christ is that as believers in God, some of us are so messed up that we would never work out way out of debt to God (via karma) So Christ came to be and opened up a new door thru grace for anyone can walk thru. Now speaking for myself, I am so messed up (in my humble opinion) that I must rely on grace to save me. (rather than karma) I'm OK with that. Now for those who are so perfect that they don't need grace to save them in a similar manner, then my hat is off to them. For them, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth is the rule. Choose one or the other, because that is all that there is. (to choose from)

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