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Was Cain the Founder of China?
The suggestion that Cain or his near descendants founded the mysterious Chinese empire may, at first sight, be regarded as fantastic, but Chinese traditions and other considerations offer ground for such a theory. Just as Sargon of Akkad is said to have ruled over the black heads, so in Chinese tradition the first ruler is said to have "transformed the black-haired people" and to have made them "brightly intelligent." (**1) Just as Cain, if my deductions are correct, brought the knowledge of One God into Babylonia but substituted for His worship the worship of his own parents, so we find that in China both the knowledge of One God and the worship of ancestors existed as far back as history can reach.
SARGON THE MAGNIFICENT by Mrs. Sydney Bristowe Author of "THE OLDEST LETTERS IN THE WORLD" http://www.docrob.100megsfree5.com/s...n004.htm#VIIIb if you have time read on and you will be surprised at how clear the facts are when tracing lineage.
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Interesting topic. I always thought Cain was heavily bearded (red hair?) while the Chinese don't have much facial hair. But I'm no scholar....
"one of those earliest rulers was known as the "Divine Agriculturist.....We have seen that the title of "Divine Agriculturist" was known in ancient Chinese history. Is it perhaps in memory of Cain, the first "tiller of the ground," I guess it's possible. Wasn't Abel a shepard, while Cain was an agriculturist? After being cursed to wander, where did he wander too? Africa? China? "The Chinese were not the first inhabitants of the country in which they settled. Upon migrating to the Valley of the Yellow River they found aboriginal tribes already in possession and obtained the territory from them by conquest. These native tribes were pressed more and more south and west but were never exterminated." Sounds similar to Amercian history 1000's of years later. |
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Issac, I'm curious what these Kansas lyrics referencing Cain mean if anything? I've heard them for years but never really listened or tried to figure it out.....
Kansas "Mysteries And Mayhem" (Kerry Livgren / Steve Walsh) Well I'm trying to tell you about a thing I thought I saw It came to me in a dream one night When a voice began to call I heard my name being summoned as I looked around to see A hooded judge and jury There was no mercy there for me Well I can't make it, I just can't figure it out This dream is drivin' me crazy I gotta know what it's all about The mark is upon me, and the mark of Cain brings fear A cold wind's blowin' right down my back I'm runnin, I'm runnin' from a figure that's dressed in black I think my legs are made out of lead Cause I'm runnin' but I'm going nowhere The bad dream is coming closer and closer I got a feelin' he'll always be there Forever is a long time to spend in agony And the demons of confusion have got a place for me The mark is upon me, and the mark of Cain brings fear I was tired, so tired of runnin' I had to turn and look around I saw eyes that looked right through me And a voice that made no sound My body froze and I stood and stared, unearthly face before me From the depths of a hooded nightmare, I saw what could not be Mysteries and mayhem from the pinnacle I see There's no answer when there's no question The mark of Cain bears hard on me FWIW, I also like this Kansas song.............. Kansas "The Wall" I'm woven in a fantasy, I can't believe the things I see The path that I have chosen now has led me to a wall And with each passing day I feel a little more like something dear was lost It rises now before me, a dark and silent barrier between, All I am, and all that I would ever want be It's just a travesty, towering, marking off the boundaries my spirit would erase To pass beyond is what I seek, I fear that I may be too weak And those are few who've seen it through to glimpse the other side, The promised land is waiting like a maiden that is soon to be a bride The moment is a masterpiece, the weight of indecision's in the air It's standing there, the symbol and the sum of all that's me It's just a travesty, towering, blocking out the light and blinding me I want to see Gold and diamonds cast a spell, it's not for me I know it well The treasures that I seek are waiting on the other side There's more that I can measure in the treasure of the love that I can find And though it's always been with me, I must tear down the Wall and let it be All I am, and all that I was ever meant to be, in harmony Shining true and smiling back at all who wait to cross There is no loss |
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I have to wonder just what David Gilmour really knows about the history of the time before time. Rhertz while you are grooving to the music check out these lyrics and try to read between the lines.
David Gilmour - High Hopes Lyrics Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young In a world of magnets and miracles Our thoughts strayed constantly and without boundary The ringing of the division bell had begun Along the Long Road and on down the Causeway Do they still meet there by the Cut There was a ragged band that followed in our footsteps Running before time took our dreams away Leaving the myriad small creatures trying to tie us to the ground To a life consumed by slow decay The grass was greener The life was brighter With friends surrounded The nights were wilder Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side Steps taken forwards but sleepwalking back again Dragged by force of some inner tide At a higher altitude with flag unfurled We reached the dizzy heights of that dreamed of world Encumbered forever by desire and ambition There's a hunger still unsatisfied Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon Though down this road we've been so many times The grass was greener The life was brighter The taste was sweeter The nights of wonder With friends surrounded The dawn mist growing The water flowing The endless river Forever and ever
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Good post. I never listened to Christian music much, but I've been listening to Miracle 89.1 FM lately and Christian music has come a long way lately. Check it out...
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Isaac, I once saw a reporter(on TV or something) ask David Gilmour what his favorite PinkFloyd song was-He replied:"I love to play HighHopes, because it is very personal". He didn't comment any farther and I always wondered what he meant by that.....? Maybe the word "play" was significant? maybe not-
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I dunno, I always like the lyrics in Welcome to the Machine and Wish you were Here. but Dark Side is my favorite LP. One of the first recordings I experienced in stereo or hifi....
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No doubt Gilmour is a wise old soul, it's obvious in his music. His talent is truly a gift from GOD -I know when I'm stressed out or angry, I NEED my Floyd!
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Gilmour knows about the time before time as we know it. That is why he will not talk about the lyrics of this song. People might think he is crazy like Isaac.
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