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piemaker720 05-19-2007 11:54 AM

The 'Dirty Little Secret' on Illegal Workers
 
http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=6538622

Quote:

A major industry source estimates 75-percent of all construction workers in Shreveport- Bossier are illegal. "There's just not that much to choose from, so you just go with what you got," said General Contractor Miguel Perez, who owns Highland Homebuilders L.L.C.
No wonder unemployment is high.:eek:

MattyMattyChooChoo 05-19-2007 04:50 PM

And which unemployment rate would that be, the national unemployment rate? Would you rather have the unemployment rate of any other country?

piemaker720 05-19-2007 05:01 PM

I would rather there were no unemployment rate at all. If there were enough jobs then we would have nothing to worry about.

piemaker720 05-19-2007 05:17 PM

Oh yeah, after thinking about it you ask if I wanted the unemployment rate for other countries the answer is NO. I do not live in another country, I live here in the United States. Do I think it is fair for people to enter illegaly and against the law, NO. If someone wants to work here do it legally, there are ways. I do not go to other countries to take jobs there. We are in a war with Iraq and our soldiers are still dying. Their people are not trying to stop the violence. So if you diagree I'm sorry but that is the way I feel.

LateNight 05-19-2007 08:43 PM

I believe the unemployment rate for Shreveport was around 4.0 as of march 2007

I don't know how MANY people 75% of contstruction labor that is illegal aliens equals to..

But if they are illegal aliens.. I take it that means they aren't paying social security taxes ? or federal or state taxes from what they get paid ?

But considering the amount of construction that is currently going on in shreveport and bossier, I'd suspect that's quite a few people.

I love how everyone in that article passes the buck.. the Construction passed the buck to the "contractor" who they say is "legal" the contractor passes it on to somebody else, who they say is "legal" but that they don't know who hires who.. ??

piemaker720 05-19-2007 09:05 PM

so true, so true.:clap:

joepole 05-19-2007 11:04 PM

>I would rather there were no unemployment rate at all. If there were enough jobs then we would have nothing to worry about.

Even if there are enough jobs and enough employees unemployment will never be 0% because 1) some people are unemployable and 2) job turnover

Super-low unemployment is just a much an indicator of an unhealthy economy as super-high unemployment is.

Isabella 05-19-2007 11:12 PM

Builders have told me they cannot find people to work. Mexicans want to work, so they hire them.

LateNight 05-20-2007 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isabella
Builders have told me they cannot find people to work. Mexicans want to work, so they hire them.

and I can't find a doctor to prescribe me good pain meds, so I'll just make my own.

I can't find a job, so I'll just steal what I want.

the girl I met didn't want to put out, so I just raped her.

In other words.. just because they can't find enough employees, doesn't make it right to hire illegals.. how about if they can't find enough employees, they raise the minimum pay for said job, making it a more desirable job to have ?

just food for thought.

piemaker720 05-20-2007 07:25 AM

Thank you Late Night, An employer will certainly say I can't find anyone that wants to work except illegals because of the cheap labor. This way they don't have to pay a good wage. For those employers it's all about the money, they know what they are doing is illegal. They know they are hiring illegal workers but when ask they say "I didn't know".

howela 05-28-2007 01:41 PM

No workers
 
What they mean is they can't find anyone to work for $7.35 an hour with no benefits.

I agree with piemaker 720, there are legal ways to work in this country.

AnimeSpirit 05-28-2007 02:57 PM

I remember back when only the man of the house had the work and he fed himself, his wife, and kids and no one was ever flat broke. These days, you can totally forget it unless you're some kind of corporate executive. Working these $7.35/hr jobs, you'll be lucky to just get by on your own.

I pay $800/month in rent alone and I've got a tiny house. If I were working for $7.35/hr and worked every minute of two 80-hour pay periods, I'd make $1,176 before taxes. If my rent was $800, I'd better pray my utilities were less than $200 or I'd have a serious problem.

joepole 05-28-2007 06:29 PM

If you only have the skills and ambition to make $7.35 an hour then you probably shouldn't get married to a woman who doesn't plan on working. You also shouldn't have kids if you're unable to get a better salary than that and aren't willing to work more than 40 hours a week.

LateNight 05-28-2007 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joepole
If you only have the skills and ambition to make $7.35 an hour then you probably shouldn't get married to a woman who doesn't plan on working. You also shouldn't have kids if you're unable to get a better salary than that and aren't willing to work more than 40 hours a week.

for some reason, this made me laugh.. I don't know why.
Maybe it's the mere truth of it ? Or the utter desperation of if all.

When I think of all the ways a family may get started.. young lovers, "surprise" pregnancy.. People quitting school, to start working to support their families etc.. any number of scenarios.. and what I really find funny/surprising about that.. is that me and the wife were married for a few years.. and I can honestly say, there was no surprise about our two boys. If a couple of children could be more planned.. I suppose it's possible. But I doubt very likely. I can also say, that we would of had more than the two children, but I really think it came down to a financial decision. We just couldn't see affording anymore.. Makes us sad at times, now that the children are older. But for the life of me, I don't see either one of us getting up in the middle of the night... this point in our life.. LOL

AnimeSpirit 05-29-2007 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joepole
If you only have the skills and ambition to make $7.35 an hour then you probably shouldn't get married to a woman who doesn't plan on working. You also shouldn't have kids if you're unable to get a better salary than that and aren't willing to work more than 40 hours a week.

Skill and ambition are not necessarily an indication of what is available.


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